(Have no idea if I asked this before or not, but here goes.)

So basically, is there any realistic hope of Russia becoming socialist once more at some point within the new few decades? Preferably even a return of the Soviet Union?

  • @NothingButBits
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    201 year ago

    I don’t think so. Russia of today is not the Russia of 1917. The material conditions of Russians are vastly superior to those times. It just isn’t in the material interest of the majority of Russians to fight another revolution.

    Maybe after Putin dies, and if the country gets ruled by progressively more incompetent leaders, it could create an opening for the KPRF to win the elections. But it’s very doubtful the Russian ruling class would allow that. And of course, there’s also the question of what the KPRF would do. Would they start moving towards Socialism or sell out and implement palliative measures to placate the masses?

    • @Shrike502
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      191 year ago

      create an opening for the KPRF to win the elections

      KPRF and Zyuganov had won in the 1996 elections. They then proceeded to do nothing and allow Yeltsin back.

      • @NothingButBits
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        181 year ago

        Zyuganov sucks. The real communists in the KPRF need to get rid of him and his cronies. It wouldn’t surprise me if he was in cahoots with Putin.

      • @ComradeSalad
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        81 year ago

        Zyuganov is on par with Gorbachev. He serves no role and is barely controlled opposition. Even if he was allowed to win the election, there is a strong chance he would instead just devolve to a nationalistic and reactionary “socialism”.

  • @cfgaussian
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    181 year ago

    There is more hope of Russia becoming socialist again than there is of a revolution happening anywhere else in the developed world. But the likeliest places to turn socialist the soonest are those in the global south that are the most exploited and least benefited by capitalism. The imperialist chain first breaks at the weakest link. Where that exactly is no one knows until it actually happens. In 1917 it was in Russia.

  • @201dberg
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    181 year ago

    I could see it in a few decades maybe when China has gotten closer to, or already has, fully converted to socialism. Assuming China still has close ties to Russia. Being so close might be the push that’s needed. When you live in capitalist squalor while your socialist neighbors have created a utopia it’s hard to not take notice.

    Assuming the US doesn’t destroy the world at some point before then. That’s a weird thing to think about too. The world as a whole needs the US to fall if there is to be any hope for a real future, especially a socialist one. At the same time it is the US’s existence that has driven China and Russia to be so close. If the US falls while Russia is still strongly capitalist then I see Russia immediately trying to distance themselves from China. No way around it. A strongly capitalist nation would never, under normal circumstances, want to be so closely tied to a socialist one. Their relationship now is one of self preservation against a worse foe. So I think for Russia to go socialist the US will have to exist for juuust long enough to keep those two as close allies. Where Chinese socialist influence might push the Russian proletariat back to Socialism, but not so long as to allow it a chance to do something like start a nuclear holocaust.

    I mean, it still could happen later down the road after the fall of the US but there’s way more bumps along the way I think. As we know, capitalism will eventually turn to fascism to maintain power. If Russian leadership means to stay capitalist, especially while being so close to a fully realized socialist society, it will have to take extreme measures to stay in power. I see one of two things happening. It will either cave so much to the people’s demand for better conditions that it won’t really be fully capitalist anymore, which will allow for further socialization of the government or it will seek extremes to maintain their own status quo.

    Course this could all be bullshit. I have no idea what I’m talking about most of the time anyway. I’m just a rambling crazy person.

    • @cayde6ml
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      151 year ago

      I understand your reasoning, but I think you are being too cynical. I have “faith” that despite Russia being capitalist, due to a combination of popular support for communism and warming relations with China, Russia will remember who helped them the most in times of need, and I’m sure that Russia will follow China’s path.

  • @Shrike502
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    151 year ago

    I don’t see it, tbh. Thirty years of anti-communist propaganda really did a number on people. Sure there’s some support for communist parties, but that’s about it. We’ll keep working, though.

    As for the return of USSR, that would require a tiny matter of other republics also choosing a socialist path, which is even less likely.

  • @Kirbywithwhip1987
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    101 year ago

    Not without a revolution, there is no winning in fair elections against bourgeoisie if you mean that could be done, it can’t, there must be a revolution, when idk.

  • Kaffe
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    81 year ago

    Russia has entered a national liberation struggle. The imperialist powers are engaging in a dual objective of preventing Russia from integrating with Europe and breaking the Russian state (all the American Imperialists agree on the first goal, they are split on the second).

    The Russian bourgeoisie is against the intervention in Ukraine, leaving the Nationalist political forces (as in protecting and developing Russia, not necessarily Chauvinistic) and the Internationalist Communists united on the issue of defeating Imperialism.

    This process is pushing Russia’s Nationalist politicians in power to align themselves with China and the other BRICS countries, which through peaceful development lays the foundations for the proletariat to return to power. The Russian Bourgeoisie will soon have to face the dilemma of abandoning Russia or abandoning hope for peaceful Capitalism with the West.

    If Russia seeks to maintain Capitalism within the fight against the imperialists, they will probably lose. Like Vietnam and Cuba, Socialism will be necessary to build the nation and protect itself from the Imperialists and their fascist armies.

    From the CPRF:

    “In the present-day conditions the CPRF believes that its task is to unite the social-class and national liberation movements into a single popular front, in giving it a sense of purpose. The Party is fighting for the unity, integrity and independence of the Motherland, for the recreation of the fraternal union of Soviet peoples, welfare and security, moral and physical health of its citizens.”

    “The flames of interethnic conflicts are blazing. The Russian question acquired a particular relevance during the years of capitalist restoration. The Russians today are the biggest divided people on the planet. An open genocide of a great nation is taking place. The Russian population is decreasing. The historical culture and language are being eroded. The solution of the Russian question and the challenges of building socialism are essentially the same thing