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Why should a person like this get appeals? Why do black taxpayers get to pay for the mercy granted to someone who deserves neither life nor a quick death? Appeals are for when there might be a mistake and we might be sentencing an innocent person. There’s proof beyond even beyond a reasonable doubt in this case.
IMO, strangulation hanging (not the long drop method that kills instantly, it’s the old fashioned way where you simply kick the chair over and let them suffocate until dead), like the SSRs did for Nazis, is the best way for racial mass murderers. It is the most cost effective method, hammering in the point that these people deserve no special attention, consideration, or effort even in death. We’re not even going to torture you because your life is so meaningless and not worth our time and energy. This is especially important bacause most of these people are extreme attention seekers. No consumables like chemicals, bullets, everything is reusable, end not being overly dramatic and gorey or tourteous and possibly getting him seen as a martyr by his peers, and more importantly, it’s a low-tech method able to be done anywhere by almost anyone and has minimal cleanup and effort on the executioner’s part. Saves time and resources that can be used for the general, deserving, public. It should be a traditional execution for Nazis, like firing squad for military crimes.
Am I wrong? Debate me. Talking about this can’t be taboo when the Nazis are in the middle of a Renaissance.
I agree w/ pretty much everything you’ve said.
Beyond a reasonable doubt. Don’t make execution a spectacle, but I would say make it at least partially open to the public, to allow victims and their families closure (and, unfortunate as it is, perhaps some amount of relief via satiated vengeance).
Communists do not torture. Not saying you said we/they do, just reaffirming that point. For interrogation, it does not work and you’re just as likely to get false intel or a false confession by engaging in it. For punishment… fuck that. If someone is so vile they arguably deserve to be tortured, then they’re likely far beyond rehabilitation and should just be Minecrafted, there’s nothing to be gained from engaging in sadism for the sake of it, but much to be lost. Tangent: in Vietnam and the DPRK, the revolutionaries didn’t torture POWs, they fed and healed them and simply told them the truth about their imperialist governments, as many times as was necessary to make them understand that they were the bad guys. This is partially where the idea of communist “brainwashing” comes from. Communists do not torture.
Agree with everything you said.
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I feel like a captive bolt stunner would send the message home more. If you act like a beast you’re getting declawed and slaughtered like an animal. They don’t deserve the bittersweet pleasure I bet some get from being looked upon by those they see as less than human who suffered by their hand in disdain. Too high of a chance they’ll leave this earth feeling vindicated and/or hopeful of a potential second attempt by another generation. Their last thoughts either be of an embarrassment of losing, being wrong, wasting your life, and/or getting duped by pundits so deep that those deep seeded feelings of superiority and starry-eyed visions of a dystopian hellish nightmare world you get to forge crumble instantly, or of a despair so deep they’ll either regret their actions or wish they could kill themselves instead. They’re the closest thing to a demon we have, but we are humane enough to grant you a quick death as to reduce any potential perception of barbarity while saving resources and making sure your ideology dies along with you. You as a personality will be completely obliterated from the hearts and minds of every future person for eternity but your ideology (with HEAVY restrictions) will be studied to act as a reminder and ridiculed so it can recieve the worst honor an ideology can have; not forgotten, but a footnote.
I feel like a captive bolt stunner would send the message home more.
Too much cleanup. Human skulls are significantly weaker than a cow skull, you’d still get brains splattered everywhere with a device guaranteed to kill a human with a single blow, at which point you might as well use a gun. And if you’re not killing them in one blow, why not use something quicker? I also really doubt they’ll get the beast connection to any extent.
If we’re concerned about cruelty, which to be fair, as supposedly people with higher moral standing than the people sentenced to death, we should, the long drop hanging method is tried and true for being a near instantaneous execution while still not being messy.
They make non-penetrating ones and different models for different species with further specifying weight and age. One could most certainly be repurposed. However, if the risk of multiple shots required is too high, a penetrating one could be used. Reusable bolts and in the only autopsy I could find that involved a penetrating head shot was mostly contained by a grocery store plastic bag. http://epub.ub.uni-muenchen.de/7477/1/eisenmenger_wolfgang_7477.pdf
I also really doubt they’ll get the beast connection to any extent
Alot are glue eaters true ya got me there, but with how often they use dehumanizing language and get called dogs and pigs and the most prolific nazi killer’s most famous quote is referring to them as distinctly not men I feel like enough would get it. I’m mainly for it because not only of the whole humiliation angle but also for poetry of it all. The vestiges of the bourgeoisie’s jackbooted last resorts killed by a device wielded by communists, not for an attempt at catharsis via spectacle or sadism, but for a quicker and actually humane result than the Guillotine that was marketed as the Enlightened humane execution that was quick and for all strata of society (when in reality it was still used for spectacle, used by the bourgeoisie far more than the people, and left the victim either swiftly decapitated or hacked away like a dull ax of a feudal headsman). Feels like a nice bookend but maybe that’s the writer in me talking. As long as it’s done it’s fine
How is it compassion? I’d much rather he spend the rest of his life locked away, rotting his years in a steel and concrete box while being spit on by everyone who sees him.
There is no way he is going in general population, so that means he will spend the rest of his life nearly devoid of human contact, with no Internet, no tv, no books, and barely enough calories and water to survive. He will never see the light of day, or see the outside world. He will be forgotten while suffers in squalor.
This a fate far worse then death. One much more suitable as well.
How is it compassion? I’d much rather he spend the rest of his life locked away, rotting his years in a steel and concrete box while being spit on by everyone who sees him.
Plenty of people in prison are going to worship him. Massive white power underbelly in prison. Also, he gets to pen his memoirs and possibly stir up even more shit on the outside. Plenty of serial killers have done just that.
Also, pretty damn expensive to house someone, even on the bare minimum for survival, for the rest of their life. And some of that money is being paid by black taxpayers, his victims.
There will be those that agree with him, but the vast majority will despise him and his life will always be in danger. His very presence will be a danger, so there is no way he will be placed in General Pop. He will be isolated to a small, lonely box with no contact with other prisoners.
Also it is SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive to place someone on Death Row then it is to hold them for life, and it still takes over a decade to execute them. Currently the standard stay is 20 years before execution. Which still gives him more then enough time to pen any memoirs, and runs the risk of turning him into a martyr.
He will be isolated to a small, lonely box with no contact with other prisoners.
I still don’t want to pay for that.
Also it is SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive to place someone on Death Row then it is to hold them for life, and it still takes over a decade to execute them. Currently the standard stay is 20 years before execution. Which still gives him more then enough time to pen any memoirs, and runs the risk of turning him into a martyr.
Why does it have to be 20 years? Plenty of developed countries get it done in less than a year or even less than a month. If we’re assuming that the system is set up in a way that only (1) the worst of the worst and (2) we’re absolutely sure they did it, beyond even the normal doctrine of “beyond a reasonable doubt”, which it absolutely has to be to prevent wrongful executions, why the wait?
I understand your first point, but I am still telling you that it costs nearly 5 times are much to execute someone as opposed to holding them in life in prison.
I also don’t make the laws regarding executions, but the legal process that is undertaken lasts a minimum of 15 years and can take upwards of 22, with an average of 20 years due to appeals, jury selections, governor warrants, and a whole laundry list of other processes.
It takes this long because the US did used to have an expedited execution system for “the worst of the worst” and “beyond a reasonable doubt”, and that system led to states giving improper trails and executing innocent mentally ill black people.
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