• @Shrike502
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    131 year ago

    What’s the three fingers salute? Not familiar with this one

    • @frippa@lemmy.ml
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      101 year ago

      I knew it was a Serbian monarchist salute, AFAIK it meant something along the line of god, motherland and tzar. Don’t know why Ukrainian nazis are using it tho

    • @sudojonz
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      81 year ago

      Ukrainian fascist political party Svoboda uses it as part of their iconography

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svoboda_(political_party)

      mini-rant only tangentially related

      I’ll never forget the one and only time I went for a date with a Ukrainian woman living in Netherlands back in 2020. I saw in her house the Tryzub icon and blue and yellow everywhere (not to mention the unkempt house itself) and I felt my heartbeat rising from the overwhelming picture.

      So I asked her about the Svoboda party, it’s iconography (I had incidentally confused the Tryzub for the 3-finger Svoboda icon), as well as Bandera and the history of Nazi collaboration and the Maidan coup. Of course I was told “it is all Russian propaganda, there’s no Nazis in Ukraine, the Soviet Russians r*ped us, Holodomor, a gorillian dead, you must love Putin, etc.”

      Yes those were direct quotes from her minus the gorillian part, she used a smaller number. As you can imagine, the date fizzled out immediately after that!

    • @DeHuq2
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      71 year ago

      I think there was some other nazi battalion that used it as its symbol

    • @Franfran2424
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      71 year ago

      I saw it often for some blatant banderists from Spain who tried to get volunteers, weapons and went to fight in the karpatian sich.

      Likely a very far-right symbol

    • Soviet Snake
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      51 year ago

      I know they took it from Hunger Games, whatever (it’s still cringe as fuck), but that’s also how Germans make the 3 instead of using your thumb, index and middle finger, like Anglos do, so I don’t know…

      • @201dberg
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        21 year ago

        So this is actually the opposite from my understanding. Westerners, at least in the US, use the pointer, index, and ring. Germans, along with French and Italians, more commonly used the thumb method.

        • Water Bowl Slime
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          31 year ago

          Yeah the order goes: pointer, middle, ring, pinky, thumb. I’ve never seen it any other way here in the states.

      • Water Bowl Slime
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        61 year ago

        Did that seriously come from the Hunger Games?? My god, western propagandists get all their ideas from kids books I swear.

        • @PolandIsAStateOfMind
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          31 year ago

          I wouldn’t be surprised, note that wiki article cites various usages of that salute which all date after the Hunger Games movie came out in 2012, and with how the exact same people from CIA and their facades seems to train most of those people .

          It’s also a logo of the UA far right party Svoboda making it more relevant in context of Ukraine, but in this case i’m not 100% sure, it seems to be older, but all photos of this logo i seen with clear date are from the 2012 or later…

          Also, yes, western propagandists do get their ideas from popular culture in general, because references to what people know are popular are working way to anchor the message in people’s heads. This explains the gigantic effort with which USA performs the cultural invasion of entire world, it makes their propaganda job way easier.

  • @Socialisminmind
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    81 year ago

    I just bought a Mjolnir necklace because it looked cool, first time seeing it related to nazis, seriously nazis stealing symbols is fucking annoying