• Anarcho-Bolshevik
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    61 year ago

    I am not going to dismiss this story out of hand, and it is a pretty serious accusation, so somebody will have to explain the downvotes lest we be accused of “supporting torture”. That being said, my problem with publications like these is that they are very probably reporting these accusations in ill‐faith; with the intention of further turning public opinion against their rulers’ current enemy, when the publication itself mentions that

    “Unfortunately, we’ve found there is torture and ill-treatment of prisoners of war happening on both sides,” says Matilda Bogner, head of the UN’s Ukraine-based monitoring team.

    Yefremov’s accusations may indeed be true (or partly true), but aside from this being a story that’s already easy to find and access elsewhere, it’s very probably something that the establishment published with the intention of emotionally manipulating the audience, rather than describing the situation neutrally. I suspect that those are the reasons that a few of us are annoyed to see this here.

    Also, something that I found rather strange:

    “After 10 years of service I was denounced as a traitor, a defector, just because I didn’t want to kill people,” he says.

    While it doesn’t disprove anything, it’s nevertheless an odd thing for him to say.

    • @Idliketothinkimsmart
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      31 year ago

      I’m not going to divulge any serious amount of time trying to debunk this story. Could it very well be fake? Yes. Could it very well be real? Also yes. Could it be a mix of both? Yes. I feel like the correct position has always been that the conflict was started by US & NATO, and not focusing on that is very telling.

      I don’t think this changes much tbh. I don’t think we were rooting for Russia as the good guy (or at least most of us) to begin with. Critical support is called critical support for a reason.

      I more or less repeated what you said, but yeah…