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The Arsenal of Democracy
The Nukes of Peace
The Torture Chamber of Good Vibes
The grenade launcher of harmony
Tomahawk missiles of tranquility.
Torture Chamber of Good Vibes ONLY
The Guantanamo Detention Camps of Freedom
The Death Squads of Negotiation
The Contras merely wanted to debate their right to spread cocaine through latam and murder thousands of communists in the free marketplace of ideas, doesn’t anybody support free speech anymore???
I love how liberals always write about production lead-times like its some astonishing revelation.
Y’know, I didn’t have “Ukraine precipitiously draining the Amerikan war chest” on my bingo card; but here’s hoping that this is what starts putting nails in the coffin of the military-industrial complex. It’s not like they can draft civilians to work Raytheon or Lockheed’s death factories.
I could see them trying if shit really hits the fan. I do believe a huge sign of the war machine dying is not only their increasingly ineffectual foreign policy but the recent dumping of billions on further militarization of police. The imperialism and its ruling class is priming itself for its final contingency, turning inwards.
I’m not excited to be dealing with a Congress rubber-stamped Walmart x Raytheon collab fascist death squads, but I am also happy knowing that this is a symptom of the system on its last legs.
It’s not like they can draft civilians to work Raytheon or Lockheed’s death factories.
Why not? Prison labor is a thing
While you’re not wrong, they’d have to cut a LOT of corners to not waste more resources than what they get pulling something like that; so I see it as a last-ditch of last-ditches option for a fascist nation.
they’d have to cut a LOT of corners to not waste more resources than what they get
How so? Genuinely curious. Do you mean quality control or guards and such?
Everything from QC to guards to space to resource input, the whole logistical operation would need to scale, with a precipitous enough ramp-up that even the average cable news drone would notice something had gone a little fucky. I don’t believe there’s an easy way to “frog in a boil pot” this; and that’s typically Amerika’s way.
Hope you’re right
Hahahahahaha they gave Ukraine YEARS worth of equipment only for it to get seized by Russia anyway bro I am hollering 🤣
Can NATO propaganda please finally make up its mind if its adversaries are weak and on the brink of collapse or if the poor little US military industrial complex needs to burn the healthcare of a few more million people just to keep pace with scary Russia and China?
- The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak. Fascist governments are condemned to lose wars because they are constitutionally incapable of objectively evaluating the force of the enemy.
~ Umberto Eco, Ur-fascism
There’s actually just one guy, Russirachinorthkorea is his name. Sometimes he changes his name to evade capture but it’s pretty rare. He’s been playing pranks on the U.S. for over seventy years and they’re getting tired of it. He’s really fucking strong though. Idk if 1.7 trillion will be enough to take him out.
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What’s the chance this is just crocodile tears to get more funds?
There is always an aspect of the military industrial complex trying to get more funding, but ultimately this is rooted in facts. The west has largely deinudstrialized since the days of the Cold War, and its military industrial complex is currently geared towards fighting small wars against much weaker opponents. This is the first time that the west finds itself fighting a peer competitor, and it’s finding itself woefully unprepared.
This is also a really good video explaining that the current US military budget allocation is not actually the problem.
Man, that bleeping B-21. Wonder if Russian MoD/Rostekh will use it to ask for money for them and the PAK DA project
It’s possible, but as the video explains, the war is showing that stealth is largely an obsolete strategy at this point. There is no need for the bombers to ever get close enough to be engaged in direct combat. Instead you just launch hypersonic missiles from a safe distance. Given the success of missiles and drones, that the area I would expect Russia to further invest in. Currently, the west has no real counter to that. Drones in particular proved to be incredibly effective. They’re very cheap to produce, and very difficult to shoot down because they’re small, they fly low, and they don’t have to fly in a straight line towards the target.
Given the success of missiles and drones, that the area I would expect Russia to further invest in. Currently, the west has no real counter to that.
I agree about missiles, but I second what comrade Shrike said about drones. You know how some generals all over Europe were weird about tanks on the verge of WWII? Some shit like this happened with drones and some of our generals, and, unfortunately, someone in the MoD listened to them. There would be no need to start buying thousands of dirt cheap Iranian ones in the middle of a war otherwise. This is being fixed with loitering munitions right now, because you don’t argue with results and
ShahedsGerans are very easy to mass produce due to simple design, tipping my hat to Iranian engineers, but NATO is far ahead when it comes to UCAV’s and recon drones. I guess, good news here is that UCAV’s don’t fair any better against air defence systems then aircraft does as Bayraktars have shown and Russia is no Armenia nor is it Iraq in terms of air defence, but situation with recon drones is pretty fucked right now. That is being worked on too, but there is nothing like Global Hawk in sight.Oh, I definitely agree that Russia underestimated the value of drones previously.
Well USA is believed to be ahead of Russia in drone technology (by people working in aviation tech, I know a couple). Plus, you know, the general idea that USA wouldn’t just announce a stupidly expensive project like this (and our MoD wouldn’t react to it) unless there was something to it
What really matters with drones is being able to pump them out quickly and cheaply. US likely has more advanced drones than Russia, but I can guarantee you they’re orders of magnitude more expensive. Also, from what I’ve read Iran reverse engineered a lot of US drone tech shooting down US drones, and that’s what they’ve been sharing with Russia recently.
Meanwhile, US has a very long history of making stupidly expensive projects that don’t work. F35 is a prime example of this. The goal is for the military industrial complex to make as much money as possible. This means producing very expensive weapons that take a long time to make because you want long term contracts.
The fact that Russian MoD would research these types of weapons make sense, but shouldn’t be read too deeply into. If there are aspects of such stealth bombers that work it’s good to know how to produce them. But the current war is showing that you don’t really need them.
It’s also worth noting that US hasn’t really used stealth in practice either. When US does bombing in Middle East, they also use stand off tactics where they launch the missiles from outside the range of air defence systems. Clearly US isn’t willing to test how well their stealth capabilities actually work.
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The American defense industrial base has consolidated since the end of the Cold War
Libs missing the point so hard
they wouldn’t be libs otherwise :)
What are the trillions in military spending even going towards anyway? Cuz apparently it’s not being spent on weapons lol
Lots of people are getting filthy rich. The whole game is to funnel taxes from things they’re meant for like infrastructure, healthcare, education, and into the pockets of people who own the war industry. Whether anything of value is produced is entirely besides the point.
Good point. Just look at this!
No price too high to prevent the feds from looking at tiktok thirst traps while on the job.
it’s expensive maintaining over 800 military bases all over the world
late stage liberal democracy
The West prefers to avoid wars against large countries for the same reason burglars don’t choose fortresses as targets
