• Person264@lemmings.world
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    5 months ago

    You can’t really grow the same crop in the same field season after season (without fertiliser), because they’ll sap the specific nutrients they need from the soil. If you do that over and over eventually the soil wont have any food for that crop. Growing something different each season that takes different nutrients from the soil lets it recover the other ones. I don’t know how it recovers on its own, circle of life stuff probably. Modern farming can cheat by artificially replenishing the nutrients with fertiliser.

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      4 months ago

      The problem is that even with crop rotation much of our soil is still nearly depleted. Most farmers aren’t doing enough varied rotation or rest cycles or regenerative farming since anything other than the same 2-3 crops isn’t profitable for them

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      5 months ago

      Soil requires fertilizer regardless, every harvest you export nutrients out of the soil that need to be replenished. The main purpose of crop rotation is to avoid proliferetion of diseases and pests.

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        5 months ago

        some crops replenish nutrients, e.g. legumes directly fixing nitrogen from the air.

        just because capitalist industrial agriculture is addicted to fossil fuel fertilizers doesn’t mean it’s the only way to farm.

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          5 months ago

          Yes they do, still it’s not sufficient enough to replenish what is needed. Agriculture is an open loop system, it requires external inputs to continue to operate. Without external inputs, agriculture turns into minery.

          • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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            5 months ago

            Cover crops can help a bit in soil that’s not seem significant agricultural use yet… by biologically mining and aerating the soil (ie. plants with deep and hardy tap roots can break through some plow pan and clay to extract mineral nutrients beneath).

            Like you say, external inputs and care are needed to amend the soil to grow useful food crops. If they weren’t, we’d still be foraging, without need to settle areas and dedicate energy to agriculture.

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              4 months ago

              There has to be a balance, we need to understand that as long as we export harvests out of the field we need to import nutrients into the field. We can’t expect plants to naturally replenish the nutrients that we unnaturally extract.

              Also we need to understand that when we introduce heavy machinery into a field, we need heavy machinery to break compaction. Plants and soil organisms simply cannot naturally break the compaction caused by our unnaturally heavy machinery that is heavily concentrated in the small contact area of a tire.

              Some of these dogmatic beliefs lead to “regenerative” farmers being more extractivists than the industrial farmers they demonize.

              • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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                4 months ago

                Absolutely. I’m happy to see more people on the same page here. Conservation of Mass is a law that we have to abide by.

                On compaction, I have read on some cultivars of root grass crops being capable of penetrating plow pan and freeing up the soil underneath but I have not yet read any studies that empirically validate this. And, even if the data proves it, the proposed process is NOT fast and requires assistance from seasonal freeze/thaw cycles to help mechanically crack the compacted layer. So, not likely useful for remediation of fields needed to grow food in the short to mid term.