“air travel is still safer than flying.” Hmmmm.
Flying out of the window.
If you don’t travel in Boeing you have no reason for existence. Your lack of support for Boeing shareholders is appalling. The company shareholder has sent an expert to perform corrective action. The expert is known for his competence due to solving other major problems like John Barnett.
Remember, we all should work for the best the quarterly return and please our masters.
If you think it’s just shareholders, you should see how many employees work on Boeing shit.
I don’t really get the desire to pretend the entire economy is just owner class.
Because diligent, intelligent, and talented people were systematically told to shut the fuck up about safety and just crank up the numbers for 25-30 years because it stopped being run by engineers around that time. Boeing literally had their middle managers berating their specialist for uncovering issues in manufacturing processes and trying to quality-hold certain parts and operations. What part of that is not on leadership and management?
You can check my recent post history - I’m no friend of management. Tens of thousands of paychecks still rely on Boeing selling airplanes.
No, I get it. But you’re categorically ignoring the concept of wage slavery, and the fact that this is a textbook example of one of the negative outcomes of wage slavery.
No, no. I’m pointing out that I’m in the supply chain for Boeing lol
Lmao I’m sorry, I misinterpreted your earlier comments 😂
On a more serious note: as someone who’s also worked for big aerospace in the past, it must be really frustrating to watch the engineering excellence that Boeing used to represent kinda fall apart over the years :(
If the benifits of the economy greatly impact the owner class but the faults of it do not impact the owner class as much, then its the owners economy. Everyone else is just getting pissed on, its actually tinkle down economics.
The most dangerous part of the journey is still the drive to and from the airport (except for lucky folks like me who have mass transit options).
I just once want some accountability for a company, is that so much to ask? So it will be Airbus for me, at least until they inevitably fuck us over also.
Most people have public transit options.
Just some city planners make it faster to go in a personal car. The solution is easy, though. Block of 4 lanes in the highway for busses only. And if theres still more than 4 lanes for cars, block those lanes off for bicycles only.
I know most people do have some options, so I should have specified that mine are particularly good. Cheap, fast, comfy, and easy.
Yeah, its always an option (ok, only 99% of the time). The difference is how easy it is.
still, most people just make excuses to solve their cognative dissonance. and thats my point: if people actually took the public transport in the places where its annoying, then it would become the most convenient option as they get more funding, more routes, more frequent stops, and dedicated lanes for local and rapid public transport in both directions
I agree there; I find it frustrating when people who know that public transport is the better option in the long run never use it when it’s inconvenient yet also complain that it doesn’t get better.
It will get better if we all use it. We all need to take that step though.
Recent issues in geologic time, perhaps, but these last few months are just the latest in a many-year buildup.
Yeah. As demonstrated by an excellent Last Week Tonight segment, the company that used to be a byword for engineering excellence has been a stock value maximization company that sometimes (shoddily) builds airplanes ever since the 1997 merger with McDonnell Douglas.
Don’t worry, folks. The crews of those planes are way more paranoid about anything that could happen than you could possibly imagine. I’d bet the time a standard go-around takes has about tripled for most Boeing flight crews with new-ish jets
I’d bet the time a standard go-around takes has about tripled for most Boeing flight crews with new-ish jets
Based on what? I’d bet nothing has changed from that perspective.
I live right under the approach/departure path for the main runway at our airport, a couple of miles away. Probably around 100 flights/day total in/out, many of them B737s, flying around 2000’ overhead. I’m wondering if I should expect to find pieces of Boeing’s Finest in the back yard or coming through the ceiling soon. So far there’s been no “blue ice” but there has also been no door plugs or tires, so could just be a matter of time. Fortunately the busiest carrier uses Embraers for many if not most of their traffic so that’s probably a good thing for me.
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Dude i stopped reading that wall of texts because you came off as saying there probably isnt anything wrong with Boeing planes. Which, despite what you might have said, is just wrong. They routinely tried and succeed to bypass safely inspections. Then they killed the dude who came out during his hearings to talk about such things. Boeing as a company is shady and un trustworthy. Everyone should be refusing to use their planes.
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But theres also the probelm with not getting to the point. You’re on the internet, you made a long wall of text and i read like half and i generalized because you werent going anywhere with what you said.
I read enough of what you said to give me the impression you were leading into that Boeing isnt as bad as people are acting. I disagree, we arent shitting on them enough.
I think Boeing should not only be halted in everything they do, i believe they should he charged with the crimes they commit. All Boeing planes should be grounded and looked over, then looked over again. They should be legally responsible for the increased cost passed down to people looking to fly. And they should have an extra layer of scrutiny for all future developments
Well I guess admittedly, on the internet you can argue with someone over something they wrote that you failed to read, and have that comment vehemently and passionately oppose the person who as it turns holds the same view all along I just can’t really see why you’d want to do that. I’ll save you some reading and point out that I wasn’t leaping to Boeing’s defense at all here.
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Please swear at me using the least no-no word you can use.
Also what is today’s date?
TLDR
TLDR: He’s a shareholder…
If you put a bomb on 1 in 5 planes coming out of Boeing. iT wOuLd sTiLl bE sAfE. 🤣
80% survival rate I don’t see what the problem is /s
Plus or rather Minus what we’ve dubbed - The Boeing Factor
