A pragmatic compromise on the unpopular question of mobilization? A signal of the SMO transitioning to full-blown war? An indicator of Russia’s desparation, or of an effort to finally end the conflict as quickly and efficiently as possible?

Like to hear your thoughts comrades, especially comrades from Russia.

  • @KommandoGZD
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    Ok but this doesn’t address the elephant in the room: Where the fuck is the regular Russian army?

    Also if you can just send an additional 300k conscripts in there, why only now? And why just conspricts?

    • @PolandIsAStateOfMind
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      Problem with that war is that Russia really can’t fully commit its regular military since US vulture just wait for it to try something stupid, like they did with Azer-Armenia just now.

    • Kaffe
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      Syria, borders around Russia. The special military operation has a limit to the number of soldiers available, or else it becomes a full war. They’ll ask for volunteers probably.

      Why only now? The first SMO phases had defeated the Ukraine military, they didn’t really need that many soldiers to maintain their operations. NATO is giving 50 billion to Ukraine, has sent thousands of NATO experienced “volunteers”, and is being commanded by NATO now. Ukraine’s “second” military mobilization is practically a NATO army. Scott Ritter was on the Greyzone and predicted that Russia needed at least 200k more soldiers to defeat the rebuilt UA-NATO army, so 300k should be more than enough.

    • @cfgaussian
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      The mobilized reservists will be used to replace professional active duty soldiers inside Russia itself. They will most likely not be sent to Ukraine, but they are meant to replace the more experienced and better trained ones who will. Russia only sent a fraction of its active duty forces to Ukraine when the SMO began. The reason why it is now doing a partial mobilization of reservists who were already trained and have served in the army before is so that they do not leave Russia’s other borders vulnerable by pulling too many active duty soldiers to Ukraine.

      There are also more than enough volunteers who are asking to be allowed to contribute but it is better to mobilize already trained reservists than take enthusiastic but raw newbies.

      This cannot be compared to the kinds of mobilizations that Ukraine has done where they have literally dragged men off the street and press ganged them into service. Ukraine is scraping the barrel, Russia has only just begun to escalate. Of course Russia also has more to worry about than just this conflict, it needs to be ready in multiple places in case NATO attacks. They have so far been cautious because they know they are dealing with unhinged maniacs in NATO and Russia needs to keep a majority of their forces and best equipment in reserve.

      But NATO itself is becoming more and more directly involved in Ukraine and at the same time exhausting its supplies so Russia feels less threat elsewhere and is able to focus more here.

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    From my limited understanding, this does at least confirm that Russia was in fact struggling in Ukraine and that without further measures like mobilization Russia would probably lose the war.

    I am actually starting to get really worried that the US knew what it was doing after all when it provoked this conflict. They trained Ukraine for years and if Ukraine manages to win against Russia with NATO training and NATO weapons this will probably open the door for Russia’s dissolution into smaller nation states as Brzezinski described in his book ‘The Grand Chessboard’. This in turn would be a huge blow to China as the resources and nuclear weapons arsenal of Russia would greatly compliment China’s weaknesses.

    • SovereignStateOP
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      Russia recently dropped figures on casualties on both sides: 6,000 Russian soldiers killed and 60,000 Ukrainians with ~50,000 wounded. Ukrainian forces stood at ~200,000, but now “hundreds of thousands more” have been enlisted. “To the last Ukrainian” is right… I want this all to end but I hope that Russia can win this war of attrition and come out properly un-balkanized. Europeans are engaging in an actually true example of “Asiatic horde” myth by throwing away the lives of hundreds of thousands of young men and billions upon billions of dollars and euros all in their pursuit of conquest. It’s absolutely deranged, and I’m worried, too. Hopefully our worries are unfounded.

      Russia reveals military losses in Ukraine https://www.rt.com/russia/563213-ukraine-donbass-military-losses/

      I also hope that the emergency measures stop here. The “limited mobilization” is already pretty wide in scope, but I don’t even want to imagine full-scale mandatory recruitment for military-aged people.

    • Kaffe
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      The current UA is not the same UA in February. This group has legitimate NATO volunteers numbering in the thousands, and intel is now fully under NATO command. Russia is fighting NATO now.

  • DankZedong A
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    No offense to the conscripts, some comrades here are conscripts themselves facing war, but what good does this do? Sending untrained people into active combat? Why not send the actual army in? Or is it because that would change the rhetoric from SMO to war?

    Edit: also, all the muscle talk from the west got me thinking what I would do when they eventually start to send troops / conscripts. Probably jail time or something. But I’m on holiday now so I’ll continue reading my mindless novel for now.