To my dismay (not really), libs are still misrepresenting Holocaust denial. It’s not entirely difficult to expose them to the correct analysis of it and make them aware of it, but whether they adhere to it is a different thing entirely – it’s so antithetical to their ideology that most of the time, they will outright reject the objectively correct interpretation so they can retain the moral high ground.

This post also comes as a response to libs equating literally anything that happens in the world to a genocide, and especially the so-called “holodomor” to the Holocaust.

Understanding Holocaust denial

The good thing about writing for communists is I don’t have to explain half the stuff I write because you already understand what I’m saying.

So it won’t come as a surprise to say that Holocaust denial is perpetrated solely by antisemites, who are fascists.

The reason for that is that Holocaust denial is not merely about denial. It’s not about “asking questions” or “scientific rigour” like they would have you believe (if you haven’t seen a fascist in action, that’s usually how they will defend their denial arguments, using the values of liberalism as insidious weapons against it).

Denial doesn’t mean outright rejection. Fascists will not say that no Jews died under Hitler, or that there were no concentration camps.

They will concede there were deaths, but

  • They weren’t intentional,
  • They were exaggerated,
  • They were fabricated in some capacity.

Of course fascists don’t actually believe this. They know it happened and it was intentional in all measures. One thing you may not be aware of is they outright fabricate evidence of their claims, by doctoring photographs or making up documents.

So why is there such a discrepancy? You’d expect fascists to be proud of the Holocaust, all things considered.

If that is clearly not the case then we have established the objective situation (fascists are downplaying the Holocaust rather than outright rejecting it) and we can start to look for a reason.

And the reason Holocaust denial is not outright denial, but rather reframing in some capacity, is because there’s more power in that. It is, for them, a more powerful argument to tell descendants of the Holocaust “Yeah, that happened to your family, and we’ll do it again [but intentionally]” rather than “No, you’re making things up”.

It gives their other crimes against humanity leeway to be reinterpreted too.

Now you know more than libs

I think all of us here have been called deniers for rejecting the so-called Holodomor (to name just one). Some of us might have even been compared to Holocaust deniers.

As we have seen above, the two have clearly different motives. It is a very liberal outlook to take two things that look somewhat similar on a surface-level, never dig deeper, and equate them as if they were the same thing. Anyone who compares the two frankly understands neither.

  • Anarcho-BolshevikM
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    I suspect that the long‐term goal of Shoah denial, aside from sanitizing the Third Reich, is to further portray Jews as deceptive. If Shoah denial were correct, the implication would be that scores of thousands of Jews have been lying for undeserved compassion and remorse, thereby making anti‐Semitism look less unreasonable.

    Of course, Fascists and neofascists have had only limited success with this strategy since the 1940s, which is why many of them prefer trivializing the Shoah by arguing that we’re far worse. I believe that Fraud, Famine and Fascism has evidence that anticommunists consciously inflated the death toll of the Soviet famine of 1932–3 after hearing about the Shoah’s death toll.

    If you are interested in exploring this phenomenon, I recommend checking out Denying History: Who Says the Holocaust Never Happened and Why Do They Say It?. It demonstrates that many Shoah deniers are actually quite competent salesmen (figuratively, but sometimes also literally), which clashes with generalization that they’re all foul‐mouthed, trashy, unhinged skinheads. They’re also surprisingly good at frustrating Shoah survivors, because many survivors don’t know the inner and outer workings of the Shoah beyond what their life experience provided them.

    Rejecting the ‘famine–genocide’ conspiracy theory doesn’t mean that most or all Ukrainians are horrible people. It means that the Soviet government had better shit to do than commit self‐harm, namely preparing for the anticommunist reinvasion.

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