• 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    The “everything short of my version of True Leftism is useless” part has a point, too. We’ll critically support countries that aren’t remotely leftist (Russia, Iran), but won’t give an inch to American politicians who are anything short of Lenin. That applies to American politicians who have as much to do with imperialism as you or I, too.

    I get where it comes from, but it’s not internally consistent, which is bad on its own and also makes it harder to communicate these ideas to other people.

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        8 months ago

        If you use that sort of 10 million foot view then everyone outside of AES states is a different shade of Nazi. This isn’t a useful frame of analysis.

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            You wouldn’t say the only Nazis in Nazi Germany were the leaders, right? Obviously their enthusiastic supporters were Nazis, too, and you might say the libs who went along for the ride were just a moderate type of Nazi. So if you’re calling the political leadership of every country outside of AES states different flavors of Nazi, you’re calling much of the world Nazis, which is what I mean by “not a useful frame of analysis.” We have to go into detail enough to parse out which people can be brought around to our side and which can’t.

            Bernie or AOC as anything good and not just tools to subvert radicalism

            Those two are useful to the extent they start people down the leftist path, and harmful to the extent people get stuck thinking they’re the best possible solution. When we’re talking to baby leftists we shouldn’t say “this person who brought you left of the Democratic Party is a Nazi,” because we’ll sound unhinged, and because (as I outlined above) that’s not useful analysis anyway. Our take on the Bernies and AOCs of the world should be “they have some good ideas, but here’s where their failings are and why you should move past them.”