I hear people say the defend russia to be contrarian. which literally makes no sense beacuse by that logic the whould defend for every aes , iran venuzuela and belarus. Is it just because of trump or something else?

    • @JelamzerOP
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      222 years ago

      True anyone who doesnt defend voldimir "i been wearing the same green T-shirt"zelensky is a russian bot according to them.

      But even before the war i saw these people.

        • @JelamzerOP
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          Russiagate is the dumbest think ever I guess covid whould be chinagate then?

            • @bleepingblorp
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              62 years ago

              They are already spreading that weirdness that China created COVID in a lab and deployed it deliberately yada yada.

          • @OrnluWolfjarl
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            Shortly after Trump won, a book came out from one of the Clinton staffers. There’s a section that describes how there was a meeting before Clinton’s loss speech and they literally decided within minutes, with no evidence at all, to blame the loss on Russia. It was a mixture of Clinton’s arrogance not wanting to believe she actually lost legitimately, an effort to cover up the DNC’s shennanigans during the primaries, and an attempt to stop people questioning Clinton’s inadequacy as a candidate.

            And Clinton was already using Russia as the boogeyman behind Trump in an attempt to deflect attention away from her own ties with Russia, through the Clinton foundation, her personal investements, and her record as a Secretary.

            The entire US policy of the last 6 years regarding Russia and Julian Assange has been based on that moment of pettiness.

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    For one thing libs hate Russia so naturally conservatives whose positions are largely determined by whatever will “trigger” the people on the other side the most will tend to be more sympathetic toward Russia.

    Also, the social conservatism of present day Russia appeals to them, they feel like Russia is on their side of the culture war, and in some cases this is true like on LGBT issues, but in others like abortion for instance this is very much not the case…of course they probably don’t know this because they never actually bothered to learn what Russia is really like, instead forming a caricature of it in their heads as this haven of “traditional” values and Christianity, much like libs have a caricature understanding of Russia as a dystopian dictatorship.

    It also helps that the Russians themselves (including i believe Putin himself? …but someone can correct me on this if i am wrong) use some of the language that American conservatives like to use, terms like “globalist” and so on (except the Russians are mostly using it to mean “imperialist” whereas American reactionaries think it refers to their conspiracy theory of this cabal plotting to establish a New World Order and eat babies for breakfast or whatever other shit the right wing comes up with).

    There is some ideological overlap but a lot is also imagined. Mostly it’s contrarianism as you say. Plus they are easily swayed by aesthetics and the notion of Putin as a strongman as he is commonly in western mainstream media appeals to them. And they view Russia as a white Christian nation (again a misconception on their part, Russia is very diverse) so they don’t have the racism toward it that they do against Iran or China.

  • @whoami
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    Republicans that love russia probably identify with the orthodox christian element of russian society. They share certain values. China is–AFAIK–not a very religious place. And while it may or may not be socially conservative in some ways, Republicans certainly don’t identify with china.

    really it just comes down to racism/sinophobia

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    Russia is white and religious

    Putin and Russia are socially reactionary

    Putin puts out a tough hypermasculine image

    Most Republicans don’t or barely even know what Belarus is

    But also yes, Trump too imo

    • @bleepingblorp
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      102 years ago

      lmao slobber zucchini make me spit out my drink onto my computer

  • ☭CommieWolf☆
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    92 years ago

    Because liberals in the Democratic party hate Russia and as reactionaries, the republicans are compelled to like what the democrats hate.

  • Marxist Jo 🏳️‍⚧️
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    probably because of how neo-liberal Russia is in terms of internal affairs, also strong man shit

  • @OrnluWolfjarl
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    Biden pays Zelensky’s regime, while the US population is in dire economic straits, so Republicans are against it. It’s a vote-poaching tactic. If Republicans get elected they’ll just carry on financing Ukraine.

  • @Shrike502
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    Capital R in Russia, please.