• ComradeSalad
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    11 months ago

    “People” shouldn’t be put in quotes here. They weren’t some incomprehensible Lovecraftian entities, they were humans and people just like everyone. That’s what’s makes their evil all the more horrifying.

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      11 months ago

      Yeah but Ukronazis have been whitewashed, get with the program.

      Also Ukrainian Nazism is actually pretty cool, I mean they’re not literally nazis SS Hitler. Sure their greatest hero massacred a ton of Jewish people, and there’s black and white footage of even average Ukrainians participating in pogroms themselves, but there’s nuance man, nuance. You gotta respect the nuance.

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    11 months ago

    He personally shot them. Thankfully they were already lined up in rank and file so Stalin saved on bullets by aiming just right

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      11 months ago

      Even liberal historians admit the so-called “holodomor” narrative is Nazi propaganda.

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        11 months ago

        Really, who?

        Some argue it was intentional, others argue it was effectively colossal mismanagement and incompetence, and most seem to think it was a degree of both of those.

        What part of ‘Millions starved to death after Stalin directed a massive restructuring of the agricultural system of Ukraine’ narrative are liberal historians taking issue with?

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          Some argue it was intentional

          Yeah, that “some” are the Nazis and other rabid anti-communists with zero evidence

          most seem to think it was a degree of both of those

          Given the fact that all serious historians admit there is no evidence of any intent, that is a bare faced lie.

          Let’s not rehash this same topic for the millionth time, it’s been discussed ad nauseam: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/1155

          What never ceases to amaze me is the sheer shameless hypocrisy of anti-communists. So quick to attribute every problem in socialist countries to socialism or its leaders, yet when something of equivalent magnitude like the Great Depression happens which also produces millions of victims you never attribute it to “colossal mismanagement and incompetence”, let alone genocidal intent. Even when such intent is quite clearly demonstrable like in the famines in colonized Ireland, colonized India and many other instances in the global south where colonialism, imperialism and capitalism have and continue to murder many millions more than socialism ever has… But under capitalism that’s just an unfortunate natural occurrence i suppose.

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          11 months ago

          The best argument I heard that busts the whole narrative open is that you never hear about the famines that happened in the nearby areas. Turns out the one thing that gave Ukraine special attention over the other places is, lo and behold, that there were a fuck ton of nazis there.