Virtually all countries have many corpses in their basements.
Define “many”. San Marino? Probably not very many. UK? Oh boy.
How many are killed in the wars and invasions in the past of any country? Germany, Spain, GB, USA, Rusia, Israel, China…since the first Australopithecus discovered that a stick was very useful for smashing the skulls of others. It is inherent in human nature to have a tendency to destroy one’s neighbor, at the command of leaders eager for power and often for childish reasons…
It’s inherent to be territorial as much as it is to be jealous and greedy. Yet we still build mostly working societies.
It’s just that the current international framework is still stuck in the primitive ‘right of the stronger’ principle.
I think if you look, you’ll find the bodies. Probably even San Marino, either directly or indirectly.
Undoubtedly they do have some, but the number is not comparable to for example UK. I meant that sweeping statements like above are basically useless, even for a meme. Also this particular usage in this meme definitely sound like “all lives matter”.
Fair enough
Some of us just been collecting for a long time.
It’s honestly impressive how much shit the UK has fucked up over the last millennia.
Don’t see why I should be ashamed of it though. I didn’t do it.
It’s never the people, but their shabby leader and his propagand.
Second pic doesn’t even need a flag and it will still work perfectly lol. European conquest sure did a lot of damage to the rest of the world back then.
Back then is misleading, they actually try to keep their influence one way or another to exploit resources. If they can’t then they will pertend there were weapons of mass destruction.
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You inserted brackets “[the Jews]”, but the text refers to Zionists. This is not the same. One could be interpreted as anti colonial, while your edits implies it’s against an ethnicity
OP copy pasted from Wikipedia, your point is valid. Just wanted to point out it’s not OP who inserted brackets, someone else is to blame.
Two nitpicks:
- that was said by Abdul Rahman Hassan Azzam, who is Egyptian, not Palestinian
- there’s a huge difference between a threatened expulsion of some colonizers (words) and actual genocide of the indigenous population (actions)
Oh they tried, what do you think would have happened if Israel lost their first war?
You’ve already made up in your mind that the Palestinians are genicidal, in order to justify their colonization, oppression and murder by the Israelis. You do this for your own peace of mind. You need to do that because if you didn’t, you would see it for what it is, a people fighting for its liberation. You require the Palestinians were all perfect pacifists, going along with their own ethic cleansing and genocide.
That is scary but also Israel is a Christo-fascist white colonial settler project to establish a base of operations and influence in the strategically important middle east.
It may not be an individual citizen’s responsibility, just like a Canadian citizen isn’t responsible for the 60s Scoop, or an Americans for Manifest Destiny. But no progress can ever be made unless those of us who are settlers acknowledge the sins of the past, and how we perpetuate them today.
Canadian here, ashamed of our history big time. Myself and government believe truth and reconsiliation. So there is shame in our past. Also, I don’t think the country representing Jerry is a good use…
Canadian here. I believe in reconciliation with the indigenous population, but I’ve yet to see anything but words from provincial and federal governments
I agree.
Vexillology may not be for you.
You got me!
Which flag do you think the 2nd one is?
I don’t really think a country, where half of the population support a terrorist group, that recently performed one of the worst attacks on innocent people the world has seen in a long time, really has the right to claim any moral high ground.
Neither do the rest of us on the list.
We just full on support it and give weapons to people who have already proven they do not care about innocents
Yeah supporting any side in this conflict or acting like one side is good and the other is bad is just too simplistic.
Giving any side more weapons, isn’t going to bring a long term peaceful solution.
The only way out is with negotiations, not with more violence. Both parties need to make concessions.
Do you condemn american natives who attacked settlers ? There are no innocents in a settler colonial project, that’s like calling a card-carrying member of the Nazi party an innocent.
The native jews are a very small minority. Most of those “innocent” chose to be there and partake in this genocidal apartheid state.
Israel has no right to self defence, because it has no right to exist. If the Jews have to have a state (which isn’t necessarily a good thing as it gave European countries an excuse to not tolerate them as they could always “go back home”), why not put that state in Germany ? You know, a country that actually did something to them.
On the other hand, the UN recognized the right of the Palestian people to fight against the Israeli occupation, which was explicitly described as an apartheid state on the same level as South Africa at the time.
You have no idea how history work. How do you think anti-colonial partisans all around the world were treated by the occupying press ? It’s never “people legitimately fighting for their country”, always “unjustified targeting of ‘civilians’ and ‘state officials’”.
Israel isn’t there to protect Jews or any such fantasies. Jews lived in Palestine before the colonial project, and they will continue to live there after it.
The other “half” are who I care about. They’re getting killed by Israel non descriminately, while, Hamas( a group Palestinians don’t care for, who has taken control of Gaza by force)ignores their needs.
Also worth questioning exactly why Hamas is so ascendant compared to the much more peaceful PLO… Not saying there weren’t still problems back then but nothing, nothing like this
dropped one flag from the top part, here: 🇷🇺
Edit: on the second thought, Russians are actually ashamed of their history, considering how little of it is actually taught
I was so disappointed at Jerry Seinfel’a stance on the whole thing though. Which makes this meme ironic
