This one’s probably not going to happen. I would assume the fracture of the power of the American state would allow for a power vacuum to form. I would further assume certain polarized demographic bubbles in the US wouldn’t feel confident allowing the legal government of the United States to govern them.

From these assumptions, I think it’s possible but unlikely that North America will see a rise of warlords. Perhaps this could be like China’s warlord era, or perhaps it would be unlike anything anyone’s seen before - who knows? Regardless, I’ll reiterate, probably not going to happen.

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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    I’d expect something similar to USSR collapse myself. Different states will split out from the union and declare themselves independent. Texas and California have already made noises in that regard. They could end up in open conflict with each other, but I expect that internal civil unrest will be much more likely.

    I expect climate change to be the catalyst for the collapse. Extreme weather that we’re seeing is straining the ageing infrastructure in US and it’s starting to affect food production. It’s only a matter of time until there is a famine or some other kind of large scale disaster that the country simply isn’t able to cope with.

    • Free PalestineOPMA
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      53 years ago

      Good point. Collapse is either going to go the way I assume, or the way you assume, as far as I can tell. I highly doubt there will remain one united United States in 50+ years.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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        Yeah, I agree. In fact, I’d be surprised if US lasts another decade the way things are going. In the immediate future, I expect that democrats are going to fail to pass any meaningful policy and they will lose the midterms which ensures that they won’t be doing anything for the two years after that. Then republicans will win 2024 election because democrat vote will be depressed and they will have time to pass additional voter suppression laws by then.

        I think it’s highly improbable that democrats don’t understand what they’re doing here. It’s also worth noting that the only things they’ve actually done so far was to pass massive military and policing budgets.

        My impression is that democrats are angling to become the official opposition party that doesn’t actually ever hold power. This is a similar dynamic to what we see in Russia today. It creates the impression of having a vibrant political debate and provides a veneer of democracy that majority of people find acceptable.

        Once republicans become the de facto ruling party I expect them to start passing openly fascist policy and to encourage their supporters to start violently attacking opposition. They will also use the militarized police that both parties have been funding and expanding to crack down on any dissent and protests.

    • Muad'DibberA
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      33 years ago

      This one seems somewhat plausible:

      • Free PalestineOPMA
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        33 years ago

        I really like the idea of the “New Afrikan Revolution”, which I’ve seen in alt-histories and fictional future thingies as a revolutionary state of African Americans in the South. I’d reckon, if the US split into many states, that would be one of the ones that would emerge in time.

        • Muad'DibberA
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          33 years ago

          Hell yeah, the black belt thesis by Harry Haywood should def be resurrected.

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          And then call the new country Wakanda?
          I’d reckon it would only happen if Ron deSantis or an equivalent becomes the next president.

      • @folahtM
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        22 years ago

        That’s not going to happen. Why would there be so many splits?
        It’s not the states that are squabbling with each other, it’s two groups, so the most plausible is a “split in three” scenario and only because there’s democrats in the East and democrats in the West, but few in the middle.

        • Muad'DibberA
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          22 years ago

          States do squabble a good amount, especially over energy, water, utilities, taxation differences, cultural differences… but yes I agree this isn’t too likely.