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Squirrelled in away in the article is this little gem admitting that pro Ukrainian view was never dominant, and at this point anybody who was pro Ukrainian left Donabas
Vladimir - the Ukrainian soldier - says the local population are “30% pro-Ukrainian, 30% pro-Russian and 40% don’t care”. Of course, many pro-Ukrainian residents have now fled.
This obviously means that any sort of insurgency the west is hoping for is a non starter, and a validation of Russian position that these regions were subjugated by Ukraine against the will of the people living there.
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The lib strategy is “we allege it, and it’s true until proven otherwise. And even then we’ll nitpick and/or outright ignore your attempts at debunking it.”
Based in the quote itself, wouldn’t it be more accurate to say “vast minority of Donbass is pro Ukrainian”? They didn’t specify what “don’t care” means (and I extremely doubt they don’t care now), and I do think majority in Donbass are pro Russia, but I don’t think the BBC admitted what this post says they admitted.
Yeah fair point, updated the title. Given that the interview is recent I do think don’t care is representative of the current situation. I imagine that most people just want the war to be over and don’t care whether the territory is controlled by Ukraine or Russia.
and those are the “good” numbers for UA. I bet in reality the numbers were way higher for pro RU, considering demographics and that whole fact that the Ukranians were killing them
Notice how they never interview the regular army. It’s always national guard which are the nationalists.