Squirrelled in away in the article is this little gem admitting that pro Ukrainian view was never dominant, and at this point anybody who was pro Ukrainian left Donabas

Vladimir - the Ukrainian soldier - says the local population are “30% pro-Ukrainian, 30% pro-Russian and 40% don’t care”. Of course, many pro-Ukrainian residents have now fled.

This obviously means that any sort of insurgency the west is hoping for is a non starter, and a validation of Russian position that these regions were subjugated by Ukraine against the will of the people living there.

  • @ledward
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    • AgreeableLandscape☭M
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      112 years ago

      The lib strategy is “we allege it, and it’s true until proven otherwise. And even then we’ll nitpick and/or outright ignore your attempts at debunking it.”

  • AgreeableLandscape☭M
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    Based in the quote itself, wouldn’t it be more accurate to say “vast minority of Donbass is pro Ukrainian”? They didn’t specify what “don’t care” means (and I extremely doubt they don’t care now), and I do think majority in Donbass are pro Russia, but I don’t think the BBC admitted what this post says they admitted.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      Yeah fair point, updated the title. Given that the interview is recent I do think don’t care is representative of the current situation. I imagine that most people just want the war to be over and don’t care whether the territory is controlled by Ukraine or Russia.

  • @chocoraisinboi
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    and those are the “good” numbers for UA. I bet in reality the numbers were way higher for pro RU, considering demographics and that whole fact that the Ukranians were killing them

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      Notice how they never interview the regular army. It’s always national guard which are the nationalists.