Is when they start going on even ever so slightly about so called Chinese or Russian imperialism.
It’s literally just religious babble about sin at that point.
And they would even say that Russia didnt have a choice about the SMO because it was NATO’s fault. But then they go on to say they dont condone Russia’s actions or that they were ultimately in the wrong for wooping the Ukraine’s ass.
Like what would have been the right thing to do? roll over belly up and let the Ukraine arm itself to the teeth with modern weapons the US can supply not even 100 miles away from Moscow?
Like was Russia supposed to let NATO draw first blood?
Do these so called leftists understand that this isnt some schoolyard scrap?
Mother fuck this weird left wing idealist orthodoxy.
As you said lots of intellectuals, academics etc. are very eager to call this invasion criminal but no one has ever laid out what they think Russia should have done to counter NATO expansion in a way that would be acceptable to them.
Diplomacy was tried and given up on because the west is too bloodthirsty.
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And also nothing about imperialism. Ukraine issue (not so shockingly) revealed that the understanding of the basics of marxism is in really bad condition among the especially western left. Most of them really think it’s just other word for “communism”, so every shallow take like “eat the rich” suddenly become marxism in its full extent.
You know those super Christian guys who never even read the Bible and act so mighty and holier than thou, and etc? Guess what. They made an entire identity around some group binding without knowing the meaning only hearing the most superfluous part, and seeing how it sounded good enough, they just will keep on the flow without any sort of study.
What idealism do to motherfuckers, really.