The LBRY/Odysee lie.

Hello there!

Many of you consider LBRY and Odysee as a good alternative to YouTube, because it does not track you, and does not do evil things.

Let me clear up your heads.

LBRY and Odysee still tracks you. It does still use an algorithm, that recommends you content. To be honest, it isn’t really different from YouTube. You need a phone number to verify, or other personal information. They use third-party components, to provide their services like Google AdSense. If it grows more, then we will get to the same point, what we have now with YouTube. (If they don’t make a change.)

From LBRY Inc. Privacy Policy:

How do we use your information?

  • We may use the information we collect from you when you register, make a purchase, sign up for our newsletter, respond to a survey or marketing communication, surf the website, or use certain other site features in the following ways:

  • To personalize your experience and to allow us to deliver the type of content and product offerings in which you are most interested. To improve our website in order to better serve you.

Google

Google, as a third-party vendor, uses cookies to serve ads on our site. Google’s use of the DART cookie enables it to serve ads to our users based on previous visits to our site and other sites on the Internet.

Third-party links

Occasionally, at our discretion, we may include or offer third-party products or services on our website. These third-party sites have separate and independent privacy policies. We therefore have no responsibility or liability for the content and activities of these linked sites. Nonetheless, we seek to protect the integrity of our site and welcome any feedback about these sites.

Sandro Linux
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Use the desktop app it is does not track you unless you allow it to, is open source and you can do what you want with it

PeerTube is the based alternative

@dragestil@lemmy.ml
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Peertube is not librejs compliant though

Ephera
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Possibly sacrilegious question, but what difference does it make here? The JavaScript that’s delivered to users is essentially a binary, and the source code to compile that binary is available. That’s how it’s done in other software, too.

And with PeerTube being under the AGPLv3, this also holds even when someone modifies the version of PeerTube that they host, as they have to make those changes available.

@Ephera@lemmy.ml has made a point that I would have made. The JS you receive server side is a blind trust affair either ways.

@blank_sl8@lemmy.ml
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This is hardly a breaking issue, since all the javascript is in fact free and open source, you just need to put an exception in your browser settings.

To be fair, the source repository is open source, but you have no idea what kind of modifications the server admin made to the frontend you’re getting. Even though it’s AGPL and they’re supposed to open source their changes, nothing’s actually preventing them from just not doing that.

My advice for anyone worried about this is to only access Peertube from an open source client installed on your computer, preferably built from source yourself, since then you can be almost 100% sure that the code is actually open source.

@avalos@lemmy.ml
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How? Does it contain non-free JavaScript or LibreJS fails to detect it as free? Or it is “non-trivial“?

Those script lines are all auto-generated by the Webpack build. As I’ve been saying, we almost certainly need a Webpack plugin to handle this cleanly. Please supply a plugin if you want this fixed. None of this is strange, Peertube is using one of the most common JS build systems in the world and you’ll need to support Webpack if you expect apps to adopt LibreJS’s requirements.

This is probably why.

@FCKDRM1111@lemmy.ml
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Absolutely agreed. Give it time, hopefully others will see this too

@LivefromLangley
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@AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml
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Just wish that it wasn’t infested with goddamn neo-nazis. At least @nutomic@lemmy.ml’s instance seems to be doing a good job of not showing me any of that though.

@LivefromLangley
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@Qgpkje4rY5s@lemmy.ml
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Finally someone speaks out about this.

If you’ve ever tried to sign-up for their rewards program, you’ll know that it does everything that Google would do.

They require that you either give them your phone number, credit card or link social media accounts.

I’m sorry what? This is supposed to be a private alternative? Not only that, but you can literally do all of these steps and still get declined.

The last step being extremely creepy as they want you to link all of your social medias and hand them over on a silver plate for “verification purposes”.

Some might argue that you don’t need to opt-in to their rewards program but the point of being a YouTube alternative is that creators can get paid for their work.

Do not sign up, do not give these guys your personal information for “verification” and please do not trust a project just because it’s open source: it can still harvest your data as a proprietary website and application would (LBRY/Odysee being a perfect example of this).

Opt for Peertube (https://joinpeertube.org/) instead.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that they decline all verification attempts that are done using a VPN or proxy, but they only tell you this AFTER you’ve done the verification and handed over your personal information. Private alternative my ass.

Werwolf
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Peertube is the way to go

For you to earn money with LBRY like rewards they even make you have to accept sending all the information in the settings they have for it.

It is true that you can set it to a minimum, but they play with you and the advantages to make you choose the complete option.

@lps@lemmy.ml
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I agree, what a lot of bullshit, and you know what makes it bad? It has a business model, that’s the whole focus. It’s inevitable that it turns evil, how can it not. Investors, they use venture capital, want their pound of flesh. Sooner or later they’ll come for it. Peertube is free in every sense, it’s about video distribution, not commerce. I envision peertube becoming for video what WordPress is to websites.

@Evelyn@lemmy.ml
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It’s recommended to instead use LBRY with only the blockchain clients. All of these problems apply when you use LBRY inc. services and Odysee.com / lbry.tv websites. they don’t use p2p, they’re using a centralized server. Registering with an email address also means you’ll be using their service. The default way to make an account/channel is by using the blockchain by using LBC, not through a free (as in free of charge) centralized service.

@ClosedGL@lemmy.ml
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I use DTube as an alternative to YouTube.

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