• @CaptCalhounA
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    Burn this nation to the ground. Were fucking finished.

    • Muad'DibberOPMA
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      I’m betting that right now those 5 conservative judges are being rapidly moved to a secure location by the secret service. This is so incredibly fucked, just bare-faced 1950’s era misogny.

  • Anarcho-Bolshevik
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    “The inescapable conclusion is that a right to abortion is not deeply rooted in the Nation’s history and traditions,” Alito writes.

    You know what is deeply rooted in the U.S.’s history and traditions, though?

    Racial segregation.

  • @CountryBreakfast
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    262 years ago

    Jesus Christ I hate this country. Its practically impossible for congress to fix this too because well… ya know

  • @Comrade_Alaga
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    242 years ago

    Part of me hopes that the façade of Democratic party line politics will finally be shattered by this, but somehow I feel like it’s just gonna get worse.

  • @Abraman
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    232 years ago

    I dont even have anything witty to say about this, this just sucks man

    • Muad'DibberOPMA
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      242 years ago

      5 reactionary old farts deciding the fate of hundreds of millions of women… democracy time.

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          While its true that the growth of capital is dependent on a growing population, and that they usually use immigration and child-control policies to restrict / grow population based on the demand for labor, I think in this case its less long-term thinking, and more about control over women’s bodies.

          This might seem like a correct long-term decision for capitalists, IE they need a growing population if they want to out-produce and have armies ready to fight China, but they should know now that 1) production is not coming back, and the US will not re-industrialize, and 2) wars don’t really need that many footsoldiers, and 3) a draft isn’t politically feasible any more since Vietnam.

          This really just has biblical roots in the subjugation of women: By restricting / criminalizing abortions, they can lock women into indentured servitude / house slavery to men, the ultimate goal of the far right, and which these conservative judges are all having wet-dreams about.

            • Muad'DibberOPMA
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              1. Wages in the imperial core are too high, which is why production has been and continues to be exported to the global south. Not until wages reach parity, which isn’t gonna happen until the US empire falls.

              2. Modern wars are mostly fought via the air and sea. Many of the US “soldiers” operating in afghanistan did so operating drones from military bases within the US.

        • @Beat_da_Rich
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          52 years ago

          That and they want to maintain a white majority while keeping poor people poor.

    • Muad'DibberOPMA
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      142 years ago

      The democrats had majorities for years and still refused to push through the women’s health protection act that would’ve codified abortion rights into law. They totally let this happen.

      • @ThatCakeThough
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        122 years ago

        Let’s not forget Biden could’ve appointed more Supreme Court judges.

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          Obama could have appointed one, but chose not to, so they could use the Supreme Court nomination as a Damoclean sword on the heads of voters to go for Hillary.

    • Soviet Snake
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      122 years ago

      Lol, they got Biden in office, this proves it’s just their default answer to everything.

    • Arsen6331 ☭
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      62 years ago

      I tried to argue with them. It’s pointless. Either they resort to ad hominem attacks, or they just keep repeating the same BS I was responding to.

    • @GloriousDoubleK
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      22 years ago

      It’s their fault for not buying a gun and forming self defense militias.

  • @Leninismydad
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    Gonna be a lot of Libs open for more radical politics, be smart, be safe, , talk to your friends

  • ☭ 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗘𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 ☭A
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    I just tried to look up if this even applies to victims of rape (obviously anyone should be able to get an abortion, but that’s even worse), and Jesus Fucking Christ some of these “”“pro-life”“” people are disgusting

    • @panic
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      If it made exceptions for rape and incest, victims would have to prove they’re victims. That’s gonna be hard, re-traumatizing and dangerous for some people. Rape kits? Police reports? The victim is a child? Nothing is enough proof for the people in charge who are anti-abortion. Countries with these exceptions still force 13 year old girls to carry the pregnancy to term, even if the girl could die.

      The only way to protect girls’ and women’s (and all gestational parents’) reproductive rights is complete access to legal abortion.

  • @PolandIsAStateOfMind
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    “Liberal atheists against abortion”, with a peace sign no less, made me shudder with multiple instances of simultaneous cringe and second hand embarrasment

  • Catradora-Stalinism☭
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    112 years ago

    My fucking history teacher just did a fucking “both sides” with this shit. They were like “will they have support” and then unironically went on a “china authoritarian abortions” rant. fucking shit.

    • Arsen6331 ☭
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      My teacher did a “both sides” with fascism. She said that while fascism is mostly bad, it has some good qualities such as nationalism. I’m not surprised, she grew up on a military base.

    • AgreeableLandscape☭
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      72 years ago

      Did you mention that China has allowed universal access to abortion for ages now?

    • @GallengerM
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      162 years ago

      Not yet, it’s a draft opinion - so they were planning to overturn it, but then somebody leaked it. Chances are even if they are going to overturn it after the reaction that comes from this leak, it won’t be official for another few months, then it’ll be down to state law.

        • @GallengerM
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          It’s possible. Alito, in the leaked opinion, states that the reasoning behind striking down Roe does not apply to other recently recognized rights (that goes all the way back to interracial marriage laws). But some arch-conservative’s like my own Senator (Indiana’s) Mike Braun would take you back to the original ruling on interracial marriage being unconstitutional.

          • @chad1234
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            IMO the reasoning he uses applies to all the rights derived in similar fashion by the court, and the weak attempt to restrict to abortion is not that persuasive. Gay marriage, contraception access etc are all in jeopardy.

              • @Rafael_Luisi
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                102 years ago

                Guillotines are the best thing to have ever comed out of France

                • @southerntofu@lemmy.ml
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                  I think most french revolutionaries would disagree, not out of contempt for revolutionary violence (which we would like to do without but is impossible) but because the guillotine is a deadly abstraction which represents absolute cruel State power that can fall on anyone. You may be interested in reading this article about how the guillotine emerged and evolved as a symbol, and why the Paris Commune burned the guillotine.

            • @GallengerM
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              Well, it won’t be nationwide. They’ll return these issues to the states. So liberal states, or states with strong liberal majorities, will likely not be impacted as they’ll be able to use whatever laws they had prior to Roe, or invent new ones with relative ease. But for people (like me) in deep red states, it will open the way for an absolute prohibition on abortion.

              • Catraism-Stalinism
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                The Democrats will use this to keep their power. Holding the fear of the evil reds over their heads. vote blue forever.

            • Muad'DibberOPMA
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              Not really, its a 5-4 republican majority on the court, they can push through any reactionary bullshit they want until one of them dies. Buckle up because this is just the beginning.

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                I hate to say this, but could biden stop this? I don’t have any confidence whatsoever they would, but he does have the power to.

                • @GallengerM
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                  Biden’s only option would be to whip up legislation that would codify Roe as the law of the land (as he and Obama both promised to do). I would say that’s unlikely to happen, especially because it couldn’t pass the Senate. So people in blue states will likely continue as if nothing has happened and people in red states will see abortion prohibited or access greatly reduced.

    • Muad'DibberOPMA
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      They’re going to in a few weeks. IMO no amount of backlash will reverse their decision, its on paper and the republicans have a 5-4 majority, for at least a decade or two.

      • Catraism-Stalinism
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        I hope some idiot libs finally fucking realize no amount of their lazy protests is going to do anything

        • Arsen6331 ☭
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          They’ll just lecture you about how “violence is not the answer” and “you should vote and protest” as if that’s going to do anything.