Every time I see someone use the phrase ‘echo chamber’ or ‘hive mind’ I wonder to myself if they’ve ever stopped to consider the possibility that its simply that a lot of people disagree with them.
I’m not sure it is. The phrases you’re using ‘echo chamber’, ‘group think’ indicate a belief that the people disagreeing with you aren’t able to come to their own conclusions and just go with some perceived ‘herd’. What I’m suggesting is that they’re perfectly able to come to their own conclusions and its simply that lots of them disagree with you. Its not group think in an unthinking sheep-like mentality, its only group think in that a lot of the group independently think the same thing.
Does that mean you can’t have a differing opinion? Of course not but you also can’t expect not to be challenged on it either.
its only group think in that a lot of the group independently think the same thing.
Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Cohesiveness, or the desire for cohesiveness, in a group may produce a tendency among its members to agree at all costs. This causes the group to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation.
Every time I see someone use the phrase ‘echo chamber’ or ‘hive mind’ I wonder to myself if they’ve ever stopped to consider the possibility that its simply that a lot of people disagree with them.
That’s sort of the byproduct of an echo chamber and group think. Many of the times its difficult to have a different opinion than the echo chamber
I’m not sure it is. The phrases you’re using ‘echo chamber’, ‘group think’ indicate a belief that the people disagreeing with you aren’t able to come to their own conclusions and just go with some perceived ‘herd’. What I’m suggesting is that they’re perfectly able to come to their own conclusions and its simply that lots of them disagree with you. Its not group think in an unthinking sheep-like mentality, its only group think in that a lot of the group independently think the same thing.
Does that mean you can’t have a differing opinion? Of course not but you also can’t expect not to be challenged on it either.
Emphasis mine
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink
I’m not disputing the official definition of groupthink. I’m challenging the idea that it is groupthink.