Beijing is violating the Uighurs' human rights, but there's scant evidence of mass deaths. The U.S. should withdraw the genocide charges and support an...
    • @nutomic@lemmy.mlOP
      4•3 years ago

      China’s government, for its part, has recently stated that it would welcome a U.N. mission to Xinjiang based on “exchanges and cooperation,” not on “guilty before proven.”

      Please read the article before commenting.

      We have evidence of cultural genocide and that should be enough.

      If there is actual proof, why does the US government keep it secret instead of presenting it to the UN?

        • @nutomic@lemmy.mlOP
          6•3 years ago

          Sorry but I cant find any clear definition of this “cultural genocide” you speak of. For reference, here is the UN definition of genocide, and it explicitly states “Cultural destruction does not suffice, nor does an intention to simply disperse a group”.

          I know that western media talks about a supposed “Uighur genocide” a lot, but I believe in the concept of “innocent until proven guilty”. And the only entity which can determine that is the United Nations, which they havent done as far as I know.

            • @nutomic@lemmy.mlOP
              4•3 years ago

              I am familiar with these kind of articles on China, there are new ones every day after all. And they are all similar, outrageous claims with very little proof, and if you follow that its usually entities which are financed by the United States or other western governments. Which is very convenient because those same countries seem to view China as an enemy. So I dont see these articles as real proof, but of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

                • @nutomic@lemmy.mlOP
                  3•3 years ago

                  Are you calling me media-illiterate and comparing me to a neonazi, or am I misunderstanding you? And I dont see what the USSR has to do with our discussion on China.

                • OdinTheProle
                  3•3 years ago

                  Comparing communists to Nazi’s is a disgusting point of argument. You cannot compare the current Chinese state or their supporters with literal white supremacists who have no other drive than to create ethnostates that wipe out all identities that stray from normal.

                  If you genuinely believe that there is a moral equivalence to being a nazi and being a communist you have no clear bearings on history or the evidence history provides us to prove your claims false.

        • @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
          1•3 years ago

          It suprises me that one of the main creators of Lemmy don’t acknowledge the cultural genocide of Uighurs.

          “Bro just trust me bro be part of the cult like me please bro brofist promise!!!1!” Please do not make Lemmy another Reddit.

    • @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
      1•3 years ago

      Where is the evidence of cultural genocide? Feel free to share it with me from a non CIA/NED source and I will consider it.

      Edit: just noted your citation of Atlantic article. Its first 2 paragraphs prove it is a propaganda piece. 1 million detentions is a figure claimed by Adrian Zenz, a Christian evangelist “sent by God on a mission to destroy China”. He also gets funds from CIA. Then there is mention of a ban of Uyghur language, cited Radio Free Asia, a NED outlet.

      People like you are so corrupt, disinformed and want to double down on your xenophobia that you will believe any garbage you want to, to justify confirmation bias.

      Hope this video cleanses your mind of propaganda https://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=8yURIS7S9zg