California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a new law on Wednesday that aims to stop other states from prosecuting doctors and pharmacists who mail abortion pills to patients in places where the procedure is banned. California already has a law protecting doctors who provide abortions from out-of-state judgments.

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    The California Catholic Conference opposed the law, arguing the state is “engaging in ideological colonization against states and citizens that do not want abortion.”

    Are … are they trying to say CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to people who didn’t ask for them? What does this statement mean? Maybe what they meant was something like: “We do not believe women have a basic right to control their body, whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in.”

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      No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing ‘ideological colonization’ by mailing to anyone in TX who does want them, since the majority do not.

      Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though… 🗿

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        But … they don’t mail the pills randomly. A person in the state where it is outlawed is requesting something from a state where it is not.

        I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.

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          I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.

          They’re not. At least not in the majority rational view. That’s just some old mad folks in the Catholic church thinking so and feeling the need to say something.

          There’s actually a LOT of interesting info on the article…For example they ban Facebook from giving info to law enforcement from other states about Cali related abortion pill mail/doctors even if it’s a legitimate judge signed subpoena. I believe that covers investigations including conversations between two individuals about getting an abortion. California is really saying “Get fucked Texas and similar states. We The People say so.”

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            I understand, that’s why I was trying to translate their statement into reality-based words. I thought you were defending their position based on your response.

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              ah, I thought you were trying to understand if the Catholic church folks that made the argument thought they were being mailed to random people so I was just explaining what I thought they meant. We’re on the same page.

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              I think I somehow missed this part, in the very end of your first comment, and if I hadn’t missed it I probably wouldn’t have commented… but hey, it sparked a good discussion.

              whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."

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        The majority oppose abortion? I’d love to see whatever stats or information you have that shows that.