This just showed me that Liberals are fine with defending or covering up neonazis. You don’t have to be pro Russia to say: fuck these Nazi’s.
Remember this comrades.
There even was some Jewish guy defending them by saying “my enemy’s enemy is my friend” commenting that after I’ve posted a few pics of Azov in r/Ukraine
‘My enemy may want to ethnically cleanse me, but at least it’s not the one the media tells me to hate!’
“the enemy of my enemy is my friend” is an argument that can also be used to justify being pro-Russia in this case, unless that is you don’t really consider Nazis your enemies…and that’s the crux of the matter. libs don’t really oppose nazis, they embrace them when they need to use them against their real enemies.
i for one will always stand on the side that is killing nazis. can’t go wrong with that.
The more I deal with right-wing Zionists, the more I get the feeling that they actually have a weird love-hate relationship with Hitler. As in, “Yeah, he tried to exterminate my people, but he got everything else so, so right!”
Zionists tried to provide apartheid south africa nukes with the understanding that there are inferior races, they just aren’t Jews. That’s the Zionist mindset.
Holy shit, that’s nuts
Yes, that is some Azov levels of craziness. Makes you understand why Zelensky says he wants post-war Ukraine to be like modern Israel.
Zionist mindset is might makes right, and had been for a decade before Hitler had even become relevant. To a Zionist the only bad thing Hitler did was not being a Jew. Their worldview is a battle of races where the Jews are the superior race and it is their god given duty to become mightier than non-Jews and exert your will upon them, which is what Hitler was doing.
This is not merely my opinion btw. Revisionist Zionism is the main movement that established Israel through terrorism and also the main political movement in modern day Israel through their political and military arms Likud and IDF. The wikipedia article on Revisionist Zionism has an entire section on “Fascist views within the movement”, which includes:
When Ahimeir was put on trial in 1932 for having disrupted a public lecture at Hebrew University, his lawyer, Zvi Eliahu Cohen, argued “Were it not for Hitler’s anti-Semitism, we would not oppose his ideology. Hitler saved Germany.” Tom Segev has remarked, “This was not an unconsidered outburst.” An editorial in the Revisionist newspaper Hazit Haam praised Cohen’s “brilliant speech.” It continued, that “Social Democrats of all stripes believe that Hitler’s movement is an empty shell (but) we believe that there is both a shell and a kernel. The anti-Semitic shell is to be discarded, but not the anti-Marxist kernel. The Revisionists would fight the Nazis only to the extent that they were anti-Semites.”[22]
In 1933, when Hitler came to power, the newspaper, whose editors were Revisionist Party members, praised Nazism as a German national liberation movement and said that Hitler had saved Germany from Communism. Jabotinsky responded by threatening to have the newspaper’s editors expelled if they repeated such “kow-towing” to Hitler.[23]
These guys were literally praising Hitler and their leader had to shut them up because they were saying the quite parts out loud.
Hey, it wouldn’t be the first time the West repeats Nazi propaganda verbatim, and then turns around saying: “we also said it, so it must be true!”
For years I heard other Marxists say that most liberals – when you really get down to it – think fascism is a whole lot better than communism, and will always sympathize with fascism when a crisis arises. Part of me never really believed it.
Now I’m seeing that it’s true.
It’s not too hard to imagine when you’re in this part of the world. It’s part of the state ideology to downplay the Holocaust, and yell “but the commies!! They stole my grandpa’s toothbrush!! The fascists we were allied with never did that!!”
Yes, I suppose my Americ*n is showing here. We’re told pretty much from birth how great the US was in World War II, and how we “singlehandedly” beat the Axis. (Most Americans – no joke – think that Stalingrad was just a minor battle somewhere “out east,” also that we “saved the world” by dropping the atom bomb). It’s crazy to see the complete liberal about-face with Ukraine.
Here in Romania, WW2 is very barely touched upon. We start off by drawing that good old false equivalence between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany.
Followed of course by “but we had to ally with the Nazis, those evil Soviets took our land! (so did the Axis, but nevermind that)”
And of course also by mentioning the Holocaust, and then completely pretending we never participated in it.
And also, “our leader wasn’t a fascist!! I mean, yes, he allied the country with the Nazis, but something-something soldier’s honour blah blah clean Wehrmacht myth Romanian edition”
I just saw Finnish state media report on this, quoting the Kyiv Independent and placing a ”disclaimer” at the bottom of the article that the claims have not been verified. The article was also of Nazi apologia nature. Absolutely shambolic.
During covid times I always scratched my head at the FAKE NEWS ITS ALL A PLOT anti vaxxers but I can now see how they get to that point.
Basically admitting the Kyiv Independent is garbage.
That’s the thing, the big Intel agencies know this is bullshit. This is just a show for us peasants to manufacture consent.
They are just wholesome socialists, National ones, but that doesn’t make much of a difference
The epic wholesome European style of today’s socialists!
That is not Socialism. The modern American definition of Socialism and dictatorship had been redefined and Hitler had re-appropriate Socialist label to gain popularity.
I know, just making a funny
Katyn Massacre, but Redux version
It could not be more obvious that any report of chemical weapon usage is a false flag. The West has been begging Ukraine to stage an attack on themselves for weeks.
I have seen this movie before…
