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Sweet. Now scour every other gun owner’s publications and social media and if you find evidence of drug use ring them up on federal charges because apparently we’re enforcing that shit on its own now. It’s going to be interesting to have to visit all of my rural-ass relatives in a federal penitentiary.
Every one of my republican voting friends owns firearms and smokes weed. One of them has a hemp businesses that they’re just waiting to switch over to cannabis as soon as it’s legalized. Guess who’s the most diehard Trump lover of the bunch…
It’d be fucked up, but one anonymous complaint…
So you’re suggesting ruining someone’s life because you’re pissy about political theatrics? Be better.
I mean if that is how they feel. Might as well be consistent. /me shrugs
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What does political affiliation have to do with anything here?
In a global utilitarianism point of view, the best course of action is not to pursue that.
I’m a kantian point of view, there are no exceptions to rules. If you find an exception, it’s a bad rule and needs to be rewritten.
I’m taking a kantian ethics point of view. Why does this appear to be Republican to you?
So you’re suggesting ruining someone’s life because
you’re pissy about political theatricsthey are a criminal?FTFY.
Some crimes aren’t crimes.
Some things should be though, like being a Trumpet.
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I’m not saying to do it. I’m simply pointing out that it’s an option and not an amazing one at that.
I think technically alcohol too would fall under this without too much effort
It would be super fun if Hunter’s expensive lawyers raise some argument about the constitutionality of gun crimes that eventually makes it to the Supreme Court - put Thomas and Alito in the position of either pissing off gun nuts or pissing off MAGA idiots (and the center of that Venn diagram is quite large).
That’s almost certainly what his lawyers are going to do. But I think that it will be the appeals court that pisses off the MAGA idiots, and that the SCOTUS will not take the case.
You’re not wrong.
But it’s also not incorrect that Biden’s son is a piece of shit, and I would really like to see our president spend as much effort trying to get a living wage for the American people as he does trying to keep his offspring out of jail.
Lmao… no he isnt… It’s not shity, to like your own penis and take pics of it to send out… enjoy having sex, even with removed (take a lesson from frank Reynolds) and to be into guns, and oh yeah, coke.
That is literally your everyday republican politician… they just don’t like Hunter, cause his massive dong made them feel confusing feelings they try to repress.
What makes him a piece of shit? Genuinely curious. Do you know him personally?
Not the person you asked, but from what I can tell based on what I read, he’s a typical nepo baby who trades way too much on his father’s fame. The calls to Biden were things like “hey Dad, how are you?” during a meeting to show that he could get the VP on the phone. Biden didn’t even know he was bragging about his father in a meeting when he took the call. He just thought it was his son calling to say hi.
So kind of an asshole nepo baby.
Sounds kind of douchey. Not sure that makes someone a piece of shit.
I guess it depends on your definition of ‘piece of shit.’
Well I for one am glad this came out.
This cleared up any doubts I had in my mind when it came for voting for this guy for president. Yessiree, I absolutely am not gonna vote for Hunter Biden in 2024.
I would vote for Hunter Biden’s penis for president
Apparently so would Marjorie Taylor Green
Ok, I just cackled. I’ve never cackled before. Thanks for that.
Once you start, you can’t stop. Next thing you know, you’re living as far from society as you can, cooking strange things in large pots, and communing with nature.
It’s a curse. An absolutely wonderful curse.
Don’t forget. Also burning incense and lots of candles.
I don’t know, seems like a different kinda leader, not a beltway insider.
If he shoots someone in the street I might be persuaded.
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The NRA is going to leap to his defense, right?
Just like how they leapt to the defense of Philando Castile and Breonna Taylor.
…Bueller?
Is going after gun owners who lied about their drug usage while purchasing their guns really the road Republicans want to go down? That is fine by me! Go get all that drug using gun owners Feds!
Hurting themselves to own the left again.
Honestly, that’s a horrible idea. Far more minorities are convicted on drug charges than their population represents. It’s likely that the document violates people’s 2nd amendment rights (for those who think that it still applies when a well regulated malitia is not required for the protection of our free state). Regardless, it’s a bad precident. I don’t care about Hunter, but this should not be used on anyone else. If I had my choice, he’d use his resources, which he has plenty of, to fight it for the good of all other people, but that would be bad politically.
If its a horrible idea, the law should be changed. It shouldn’t be determined by one rich, white guy’s ability to fight it in court. Precident isn’t going to help any minorities or majorities with this type of case.
If it’s ruled unconstitutional then it’s unconstitutional. It won’t just be for him. I believe it’s happened once for this form, but it was in a stare court, so the precedent isn’t set at the federal level. I might be wrong though. It might just be strong suspicion that it’s unconstitutional that hasn’t been tested yet.
He is charged with lying about using drugs in order to buy a gun. Today I learned it is illegal in the USA to have a gun if you have ever used drugs. Alright police… Go round up all the guns from anyone who has ever used drugs.
Republicans. Because they are jonesing for a way to impeach the other guy so they can feel better about Trump.
The son of the other guy, but same thing I guess lol
I’m pretty sure Hunter is just a lever to pull to try to stain Biden.
To be fair, the outrageous allegations I’ve heard the Republicans make would be insanely problematic and evil if true, but I just haven’t seen any reasonable evidence to think they are. If I saw the evidence I’d want Biden impeached in a heartbeat. Nobody is above the law.
Used drugs… ever??
That sounds quite absurd honestly. So who would be left to even own guns? People who never even touched alcohol once in their life? I feel like that’s almost nobody left in the US.
The text of the statute refers to someone who is “an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance,” so alcohol wouldn’t count. You’re asked on the form to attest that you are not either a current user or addict, so I don’t think past use applies either. You just can’t both own a gun and do illegal drugs simultaneously, which I guess they think they can prove Hunter did. It’s one of those stupid laws that can be enacted selectively to add charges and put people in prison for longer.
I’ve never been asked if about prior drug use in connection with buying a firearm. Is it normal to ask that? Or is it something that isn’t asked about and happens to be obscurely illegal?
Pretty sure it’s the first question on the form you have to fill out. I believe all the answers are no, but it’s been a while.
You’ve never done an ATF 4473? It’s required if buying from a dealer. It may vary by state for private sales.
Yes you have. You just didn’t read the documents you signed.
That’s it, I’m convinced – I definitely won’t vote for him now!
Hunter Biden didn’t get many votes in the last election either. He doesn’t seem to be too popular.
But this is DEFINITELY the end of his political career!
Certainly fewer votes than the last president who lost the popular vote
Honestly he got the exact same amount of votes as me, and I’m not even a US citizen!!
now I’m upset that his father gave him a government job and placed him in charge of peace in the middle east…
/s is still needed today. In fact the past 8ish years have clearly demonstrated that the /s is needed now more than ever!
I think it might have been a reference to Jared Kushner.
Yeah I know that, but a lot of people wouldn’t, which is why it needs a tag
Uh, yeah. Duh. That’s explained by every word in their comment…
I always wanted that job. You can’t really be blamed for not being good at it also job security. Besides I could host peace events where a bunch of rich ex-pats from those places hangout in an embassy eating middle eastern food and it looks like we are doing something.
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That’s neat part, we don’t care.
Republicans: “Ha ha ha, now the tables have turned! Vengeance is ours!”
Democrats: “Cool, whatever”
Yeah you think we give a fuck about nepo babies? 😂, 🤣 Even
K. Make sure that is standard for all gun owners.
so… all those people who argued that trump getting indicted because is no big deal because an indictment is not a conviction, and it’s all poltical… they feel the same way about this, right?
On one hand if he broke the law he broke the law. Charge him.
On the other hand I’m completely convinced he only got caught because Republicans have been “investigating” unnecessarily for years.
Which is super ironic considering Republicans are the party of “small govt” yet “big brother” is why Hunter got hit with anything.
I mean, he didn’t exactly keep it a secret. He wrote about it in his book and talked about it on the promo tour for said book.
So he broke the law, but it’s also likely unconstitutional. I don’t care about him, but he has the resources to fight it for the rest of the people who don’t. It’s not like this is every really enforced, but if he wanted to do good he’d fight it. If he wants to do what politically convenient he probably won’t. I have no expectation of him doing good though, nor should anyone. He’s a wealthy private citizen.
Who gives a shit. If he broke the law, convict him, as long as it’s consistent with anyone not the son of a famous politician. By the same token, these same rich and powerful people have to be accountable to all of same laws…
as long as it’s consistent with anyone not the son of a famous politician
As the article notes, it is not consistent, and the charges were likely brought due to political pressure.
Your average addict would have these charges dropped and a diversionary program offered, as was in the initial plea deal (prior to political pressure being leveraged).
I thought the people bringing the charges are the ones against all the regulations and background checks on firearms to begin with. So all of a sudden they’re just changing their minds, as a party, on an issue that’s one of the foundations of their entire platform. Yeah, no one is going to see right through that giant pile of hypocritical bullshit.
Well then, I oppose it. But not because I’m part of some cult-of-personality about the man… That would just be pathetic!
The Republicans of the House of Representatives announced an Impeachment Inquiry into Hunter Bidens penis today.
I hear they’re calling Donald Trump Jr for a witness testimony. It was clear he was obsessed with him for a reason.
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Hear me out… General election debate… Biden called out on it… he responds:
"My son has a problem with pills and drugs. I lost my other boy after his time in the service. This guy and his kids are under scrutiny for insert implications of their wealth and status. Who do you all relate to more? You don’t have that one cousin who…? "
I lost my other boy to cancer after years of navigating year of the complicated and expensive US healthcare system this was after he served in war zones in Iraq.
Who do you all relate to more?
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Not a terrible point, but goddamn learn how to form a sentence
Are you that worked up about a missing period and a single letter capitalized? Just so you don’t have a stroke I’ll fixed JUST for you. :)
“I lost my other boy to cancer after years of navigating year of the complicated and expensive US healthcare system .This was after he served in war zones in Iraq.”
Still got it wrong lmao
Right? This law is rarely prosecuted, probably unconstitutional, and certain people still think that he’s getting a sweetheart deal because of his name.
But the Constitution is only there for Trump supporters, right?
One another note, as a Canadian watching this soap opera, it’s getting boring already. I mean the level of backstabbing, whinging and general vindictiveness is like watching As the World Turns (21st century version).
I dunno, they still haven’t done a good, evil twin sub plot.