• 10_0
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      73 years ago

      this is a problem with apples ecosystem, its their way or the highway. if patents go the same way as copyright with no expiery date polution will get worse. and people have no choice but to buy if they want to recharge their iphone on the fly

    • @k_o_t@lemmy.mlOP
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      123 years ago

      the craziest part is that these are most likely rechargeable batteries, because at this point it’s easier and cheaper to produce li-ion batteries, these things just don’t have a charging circuit…

        • @k_o_t@lemmy.mlOP
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          electric cars are shit, as cars in general are, but it’s unlikely that they’re worse than conventional cars, from this quote

          Battery manufacturing life-cycle emissions debt is quickly paid off. An electric vehicle’s higher emissions during the manufacturing stage are paid off after only 2 years compared to driving an average conventional vehicle, a time frame that drops to about one and a half years if the car is charged using renewable energy. Approximately half of a battery’s emissions come from electricity used in the manufacturing process. Battery manufacturing emissions appear to be of similar magnitude to the manufacturing of an average internal combustion engine vehicle, or approximately a quarter of an electric car’s lifetime emissions. However, recent estimates of battery manufacturing emissions vary by a factor of 10, indicating the need for additional research in this field.

  • @yxzi@lemmy.ml
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    it’s no coincidence that the “powrtab” looks like a drug you could get addicted to. also, it gives capitalists a reason to impede the development of longer-lasting batteries. I wonder how much people are willing to pay for this “convenience”.

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    Personally, these seem wasteful and symptomatic of systemic problems, but can someone argue against this (for future reference for a friend who lives amongst a cadre of iphone users)

    Made out of completely recyclable materials, Powrtabs are non-toxic, environmentally friendly, and very phone-friendly as well.

    Rated to 1,000mAh to give your phone a quick boost wherever you are Gain up to 4 hours of extra mobile use Made out of recyclable materials for environmentally-friendly use at concerts, camping, traveling, & more

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      Their website claims it has a bio-degradable “shell”. It has a warning on it that is standard for lithium-ion batteries (and that would make sense for this type of product). Technically the batteries are recyclable. In fact, they have to be recycled as the battery innards are a safety hazard and toxic to the environment. The best li-ion recyclability rate for a li-ion battery is at 80%. Meaning at best for every 5 produced there will have to be one made from freshly extracted resources. Again, this is the best case scenario, and that still leaves two obvious facts as to why these are not ecologically friendly:

      • Most people will throw them away. I can’t find reliable data on how many batteries are thrown out, but I would be surprised to learn a majority of people recycle old devices with batteries in them or their household batteries. I have trouble imagining someone buying a 12 pack of these and taking the time to go to a recycle center to dispose of them appropriately. The packing and website mention nothing about spent battery collection for recycling.
      • Lithium is mainly harvested from exploited countries like Bolivia. As oil becomes less and less economical for the US and we move to battery powered technologies for cars and such there is no reason to think US imperialism won’t have similar aggressions to lithium rich countries as they have had toward oil rich countries in the middle east. Elon Musk, who uses batteries in his Tesla cars, tweeted “We will coup whoever we want! Deal with it.” when a right-wing government executed a coup in Bolivia which has a large amount of lithium that US industry wants as cheaply as possible.
      • @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
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        Currently USA is also waging war against Xinjiang using the Uyghur genocide propaganda. The real reason behind it is not known by 99% (random number) people - Tarim Basin region having as much oil as Saudi Arabia (Iran oil rival), which USA already controls.

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        thanks, this could come in handy next holiday season.

        Another point I can use is that iphones (and probably others) charge so fast off empty that all it takes is one kind soul to share their non-disposable outlet or charger for 5 minutes and you’re good to go.

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    name a better system that works in a democracy

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      A system that is driving us all to our deaths (if only environmentally) is not a system that “works”. So literally anything protecting the environment from being irreparably fucked up by us is a better system.

      But of course then you’ll have ecofascists who think that fascism will save the environment, and so we have to consider the human cost. And the only real answer left is socialism and communism.

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        i think youre seeing a small problem in a wider system. (that being capitalism) in this case of apple, its a hard situation to solve enviromentally due to the 𝗹𝗮𝗿𝗴𝗲 chunk of the mobile market theyve monopolized. they force customers who buy their phones to stay in their ecosystem of tech, which leads to the market insentive to make garbage like this “one time use battery.” the main driving factor in whether or not something is made is the demand (the persons want, and choice to buy or not) if more people chose to buy an iphone but 𝘯𝘰𝘵 the “one time use battery” apple wouldnt make it, (in theory) better yet if people bought android before being forced into apples walled-garden then you would: help the enviroment, take power away from a monopoly, and have the choice to use FOSS OSs instead of stock android.

        (TLDR make a market insentive through consumers demand for eco-friendly products)

        • @polymerwitch@lemmy.mlM
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          Please review the c/anti_consumerism community rules

          No debating or concern trolling capitalist arguments. There are other places you can do that. Our discussion starts with a presumption that capitalism is inherently unethical.

          An explicitly anti-capitalist anti-consumerism community is not a place to defend capitalism and advocate “eco-friendly” consumerism.

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          Without disrespecting the mod’s note to you, let me present you a critique that might move you.

          Capitalism idea tries to revolve around the notion that choices create competition and competition creates more choices. Tell me one country or even a state where people have not resorted to choosing between A or B, instead of A, B, C… Z. The only case I have seen this happen is budget minded people who bear zero brand loyalty and focus on the value for money aspect on products, like India (here), China, Brazil and such budget conscious and/or large population markets.

          The reality is that plutocratic capitalism and associated psychological marketing creates a notion by omission of argument that your choices are binary, not plural. Look at these common examples - Coke vs Pepsi, Apple vs Google, Windows vs MacOS, Levis vs US Polo jeans, McDonalds vs Burger King, PC vs Mac, Sony vs Microsoft (consoles), Mars vs Snickers, and so on.

          I almost forgot these - Android vs iOS, green vs blue bubbles (American teens) and Intel (Team Blue) vs AMD (Team Red). Also AMD (red) vs Nvidia (green).

          Do you notice a pattern? Do you even need more examples for a critique of what you are suggesting?

    • Dessalines
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      “Bourgeois democracy” isn’t democratic. Its just another name for capitalist dictatorship.