But it brings it under the scrutiny of the mod. Bringing the possibility that it may be removed. A possibility that did not exist before. And if you didn’t like the post then there is a chance that the mod doesn’t like the post. Then voila, removal.
Mod never examining post means that the mod won’t remove the post. Mod examining the post means that the mod might remove the post. Thus downvotes increase the likelihood of removal by catching the mod’s attention that way.
I feel like you’re looking at it wrong: If you imagine a community to be a town square, then every comment is someone standing on a soap box shouting into the crowd. The mods are the police standing on the side lines.
In this scenario, as long as no one says anything illegal (or against the community’s rules), the police should just stand there and keep watch. If the whole crowd starts booing the person shouting on their soap box, it would clearly be wrong for the police to silence this person or to remove them from the town square. They should be allowed to be there and say whatever they want, just as you should be allowed to voice your opinion on what they’re saying.
Saying something that people don’t like hearing should never be a reason to silence someone by itself. There are valid reasons to “silence” ( you know, remove a comment or ban them) someone, but "I (we) don’t like what they’re saying can never be a reason to do so.
It’s not being removed because it was down voted. It’s being removed because it broke the rules. Reports can serve the exact same function if you disable down votes. Heck, they would probably work better at getting mod attention.
That’s got nothing to do with automatic removal based on down voting. Think about how easily that could be abused? And with honestly no options aside from flatly leaving the platform. If you have an issue with a moderator, or the rules of a community you can simply find different community or even instance.
But it brings it under the scrutiny of the mod. Bringing the possibility that it may be removed. A possibility that did not exist before. And if you didn’t like the post then there is a chance that the mod doesn’t like the post. Then voila, removal.
“mod doesn’t like the post” doesn’t always mean “mod removes post.”
Mod never examining post means that the mod won’t remove the post. Mod examining the post means that the mod might remove the post. Thus downvotes increase the likelihood of removal by catching the mod’s attention that way.
I feel like you’re looking at it wrong: If you imagine a community to be a town square, then every comment is someone standing on a soap box shouting into the crowd. The mods are the police standing on the side lines.
In this scenario, as long as no one says anything illegal (or against the community’s rules), the police should just stand there and keep watch. If the whole crowd starts booing the person shouting on their soap box, it would clearly be wrong for the police to silence this person or to remove them from the town square. They should be allowed to be there and say whatever they want, just as you should be allowed to voice your opinion on what they’re saying.
Saying something that people don’t like hearing should never be a reason to silence someone by itself. There are valid reasons to “silence” ( you know, remove a comment or ban them) someone, but "I (we) don’t like what they’re saying can never be a reason to do so.
I didn’t mean that “wrong speech” is a good reason for removal. I meant that it just works out that way.
By bringing scrutiny where it wouldn’t otherwise.
And by getting buried by downvotes, as somebody else pointed out.
Either way.
It’s not being removed because it was down voted. It’s being removed because it broke the rules. Reports can serve the exact same function if you disable down votes. Heck, they would probably work better at getting mod attention.
That’s got nothing to do with automatic removal based on down voting. Think about how easily that could be abused? And with honestly no options aside from flatly leaving the platform. If you have an issue with a moderator, or the rules of a community you can simply find different community or even instance.