• @CriticalResist8A
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    93 years ago

    Clearly the answer is to vote for a better candidate in 2024 /s

    • Makan ☭ CPUSA
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      53 years ago

      Wait until Tucker Carlson gets voted in. Then he’ll be the “greater evil.”

      • Muad'DibberOPMA
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        63 years ago

        US politics is almost enforced short term memory loss, democrats have fully rehabilitated bush jr even after he killed a million people in Iraq.

        • Makan ☭ CPUSA
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          53 years ago

          Just you wait: they’ll find a way to rehabilitate Trump.

          • Muad'DibberOPMA
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            63 years ago

            Haha totally. I gotta find that one article from the NYT I think where after Trump bombed Syria, they said something like: “This was his most presidential moment”

            • Makan ☭ CPUSA
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              53 years ago

              It was actually Afghanistan.

              It was when he dropped the supposed “MOAB” and eradicated an entire village and its vicinity. Biggest non-nuclear missile, or one of the biggest. Most of the mainstream media, including the Jacobin, called it “Presidential” or even that it was to be “expected from a Head of State.” Something along those lines. I definitely know that the NYT called it Presidential in several of their articles.

        • @javathunderman@lemmy.ml
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          33 years ago

          Hasn’t the argument mainly been that GWB “wasn’t as bad” as Trump? I don’t think I’ve heard of Democrats actively saying he was a good president, but I could be wrong.

          • Muad'DibberOPMA
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            Here’s a good article on the democrats rehabilitating GWB. It got really big during the election when trump was having spats with the bushes, democrats started defending him a lot, he put out a few videos for “calls for unity”, and he even went on a few liberal talk shows.

            • @javathunderman@lemmy.ml
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              23 years ago

              Interesting. Hopefully the progressive wing doesn’t go down this route - I’m really hoping they’ll be able to push the party to the left.

        • @TeethOrCoat
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          Forget Bush. They’re talking about the PRC’s human rights as though the BLM riots didn’t happen just a few months back. Scratch that. Even back then Pelosi was talking about HK while DC burned.

    • @TeethOrCoat
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      53 years ago

      He was tremendously useful for the capitalists though. He served the purpose of sucking up the revolutionary energy of the summer months.

      • Bilb!
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        13 years ago

        Well, we’ll see. Who can say how things will get materially- and that probably has more influence than whether it’s the red or the blue team with the ball.

  • @Nevar@lemmy.ml
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    33 years ago

    There’s an argument that cancelling student debt doesn’t really help the population that much because only 40% of the country went to university/has school debt. IMO that money might be better served in providing subsidies for poor students to attend college or building more public universities and colleges to undercut private university costs.

    • @TeethOrCoat
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      23 years ago

      What money? Cancelling student debt is not a program that requires funding. Now if you replaced cancelling student debt with something like imperialist war, then I could understand your point.

      • @Nevar@lemmy.ml
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        13 years ago

        The government would be paying the private loan holders for the students debt. Of course, they could buy the loans and then claim it was odious debt but that would create political issues that congress is too afraid of IMO.

        • @TeethOrCoat
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          33 years ago

          That’s…still paying off the debt. I envision the word ‘Cancel’ to be more like a government official visiting loan holders with a group of armed men and telling them that if they pursue the debt they can talk to one of his armed friends instead. Basically telling loan holders to suck a dick.