Any Germans want to weigh in on this? I believe the AfD is, like, super far right and it has 18%? That seems like a lot of support…

  • loathesome dongeater
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    Someone familiar with this is gonna have to give a very brief rundown. I am not familiar with Germany.

    • Better Red Than Dead
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      many reactionary / conservative newspapers, large amount of anti-socialist propaganda, voters only care about identity politics and who can bash who the most, large conspiracy theory movements, east germany gets constantly exploited since 1989 by west german capitalists and news outlets have stirred a large amount of hatred for east germans, so that noone could think for one second that socialism is good -> resulted in hatred for the government in east germans and west german fascists taking control of said hatrid, immigration caused by US imperialist wars has brought up an easy target for bigots to say immigrants are the problem, government fails to stop alt-right movements and is generally incapable of governing, people misinterpret the real causes of late capitalism, etc etc etc, you get the idea, its generally the same as everywhere else in the western world.

      • loathesome dongeater
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        1011 months ago

        Thanks but what I meant was that what parties are featured in the screenshot. Asking since there are only abbreviations used.

        • Better Red Than Dead
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          Ah okay, sorry. Here: SPD: Social Democratic Party of Germany, CDU: Christian Democratic Union (=Conservative, CSU is their Bavarian branch, which has been even more conservative historically). Grune: Green Party, started off from ‘Maoist’ extra-parliamentary movements, but has since become a neoliberal party that makes the poor pay for their climate programs instead of the rich, FPD: Free Democratic Party, Neoliberal, they like the taste of US’ imperialist boots, AfD: Alternative for Germany, right-wing populist to neo-nazi party, has radicalised a lot since 2020 Die LINKE; The LEFT, Marxist, democratic socialist party, largest left wing party that is not offically surveilled by the intelligence, has been losing a lot of votes since Sarah Wagenknecht went crazy.

            • Better Red Than Dead
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              411 months ago

              Yes, they are a “democratic socialist” party. If you read Lenin’s works you know why this concept is inherently bad and just supports the ruling class in one way or another

          • @REEEEvolution
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            has been losing a lot of votes since Sarah Wagenknecht went crazy.

            Sorry, but Sarah did not go crazy. The new leadership of the party basically threw every pro-worker position over board and replaced it with liberal idpol bullshit in a cheap attempt to become the next Grüne/Bündnis 90. This predictably failed, because the orginal already exists and people at the existence minimum tend to be kind apathetic (at best) towards idpol. The massive loss of votes happened before Sarah said anything. She then correctly pointed outt he mistakes of the party leadership, which ignored her (at best, demonization was more common), which led to a continuation of the downwards trend.

            I hope the party splits soon, those radlibs in the current Linke ruined it.

            • Better Red Than Dead
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              311 months ago

              That is true, but her supporting Nazis is not an opinion you can have

              • @REEEEvolution
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                Huh? When did she do that? I agree with you, but I seem to be somewhat out of the loop regarding that.

                • Better Red Than Dead
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                  110 months ago

                  Sorry for the late reply. She and Alice Schwarzer (a prominent TERF) protested on February 25 2023 together with members of the AfD.

                  • @REEEEvolution
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                    That was a strategical alliance with anti war-people. Schwarzer may be a TERF, but she also is very much against the war in Ukraine. Ironically her gossip magazine was one of the few outlets that let critical german officers speak. Who unsuprsingly said that the war was basically unwinnable for Ukraine and that further escalation being a very stupid idea.

                    As for the AfD, they’re nationalists. With a shitload of neolibs. This can mean them having lots of immensly bad people, but also some with decent opinions on some topics. Overall, horrible party tho.