KKE and KPRF are correct like 99% of the time. That’s why it absolutely pisses me off when they’re wrong - maybe just the western Purity Tester within me, and if they were dispassionately wrong about these issues it wouldn’t bug me as much, but shit. Gay ppl are not a bourgeois imperialist influence you fools, you’re playing right into imperial NGO hands by supporting crackdowns on social progress. 🙄
They don’t need my support, caveat caveat western communist etc. etc. Just venting frustrations I guess.
So frustrating. I don’t want to seem like le enlightened westerner, but communists everywhere have to see past the mockery of social progress empire and its vassals support. They want these nations to crack down on LGBT freedoms and that’s why they create and fund these groups of liberal instigators, not some culture war malarkey they actually support. They “love” LGBT people up until it’s time to live next to them. What they really love is chaos in the periphery and the global south, and using human rights as a cudgel is one of their favorite tactics, and in supporting these “family protection” bills or whatever these communists are only feeding the imperial machine.
LGBT people disproportionately support socialism - this is a completely anecdotal statement, but how many of our comrades here are trans? How many are otherwise “nonconforming?” Have you MET trans women? Them mfers be (disproportionately) the tankiest tanks I’ve ever fuckin met. Most of us are proletarian, too, just as with most non-LGBT people. It’s bad optically, it’s bad ethically, it’s bad on an anti-imperialist basis, it’s just bad.
Homophobia to the extent that it exists in modern practice is a distinctly western invention. You wanna embrace Greek culture? Greek culture is gay as shit you compradors! You wanna separate Russia as a distinct cultural entity from the West? Stop allowing your ideas of universal Christendom and other such nonsense imported by western-fetishist nobles to muddy your fight for liberation of all peoples!
Imperial snakes created modern homophobia and transphobia and exported it globally. Cut their fucking heads off and reclaim national-cultural LGBT histories! They exist everywhere and they are more often than not revolutionary as shit!
I am burdened by Western/English language and vernacular. LGBT serves as a stand-in here for our sexual and gender non-conforming siblings and comrades everywhere, and this screed obviously excludes pederasts and other predators disguising their intentions with a “sexual minority” label.
Western do-nothing communist yells at cloud moment over. Hey, at least I’m aware of it, right? 😅
I agree. On the one hand i understand why they are making these errors. The imperialists use culture war issues as a weapon and it is not surprising that that would provoke a defensive and hostile reaction in so many parts of the world. On the other hand communists really should know better and should see the game that the imperialists are playing and recognize that it is detrimental to the interests of the revolution to cling to reactionary positions on these issues. By reflexively adopting the contrarian position you are allowing the enemy to determine where you stand, and they can push you into a disadvantageous stance. To win we will have to build a mass movement with a disciplined core consisting of the most advanced and most class conscious section of the proletariat. We can’t do that if we turn against some of the most marginalized people in our societies. This is not something we can afford to be on the wrong side of history on, it will cost us the support of precisely those people with the most revolutionary potential.
KKE and KPRF are correct like 99% of the time. That’s why it absolutely pisses me off when they’re wrong - maybe just the western Purity Tester within me, and if they were dispassionately wrong about these issues it wouldn’t bug me as much, but shit. Gay ppl are not a bourgeois imperialist influence you fools, you’re playing right into imperial NGO hands by supporting crackdowns on social progress. 🙄
They don’t need my support, caveat caveat western communist etc. etc. Just venting frustrations I guess.
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So frustrating. I don’t want to seem like le enlightened westerner, but communists everywhere have to see past the mockery of social progress empire and its vassals support. They want these nations to crack down on LGBT freedoms and that’s why they create and fund these groups of liberal instigators, not some culture war malarkey they actually support. They “love” LGBT people up until it’s time to live next to them. What they really love is chaos in the periphery and the global south, and using human rights as a cudgel is one of their favorite tactics, and in supporting these “family protection” bills or whatever these communists are only feeding the imperial machine.
LGBT people disproportionately support socialism - this is a completely anecdotal statement, but how many of our comrades here are trans? How many are otherwise “nonconforming?” Have you MET trans women? Them mfers be (disproportionately) the tankiest tanks I’ve ever fuckin met. Most of us are proletarian, too, just as with most non-LGBT people. It’s bad optically, it’s bad ethically, it’s bad on an anti-imperialist basis, it’s just bad.
Homophobia to the extent that it exists in modern practice is a distinctly western invention. You wanna embrace Greek culture? Greek culture is gay as shit you compradors! You wanna separate Russia as a distinct cultural entity from the West? Stop allowing your ideas of universal Christendom and other such nonsense imported by western-fetishist nobles to muddy your fight for liberation of all peoples!
Imperial snakes created modern homophobia and transphobia and exported it globally. Cut their fucking heads off and reclaim national-cultural LGBT histories! They exist everywhere and they are more often than not revolutionary as shit!
I am burdened by Western/English language and vernacular. LGBT serves as a stand-in here for our sexual and gender non-conforming siblings and comrades everywhere, and this screed obviously excludes pederasts and other predators disguising their intentions with a “sexual minority” label.
Western do-nothing communist yells at cloud moment over. Hey, at least I’m aware of it, right? 😅
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I agree. On the one hand i understand why they are making these errors. The imperialists use culture war issues as a weapon and it is not surprising that that would provoke a defensive and hostile reaction in so many parts of the world. On the other hand communists really should know better and should see the game that the imperialists are playing and recognize that it is detrimental to the interests of the revolution to cling to reactionary positions on these issues. By reflexively adopting the contrarian position you are allowing the enemy to determine where you stand, and they can push you into a disadvantageous stance. To win we will have to build a mass movement with a disciplined core consisting of the most advanced and most class conscious section of the proletariat. We can’t do that if we turn against some of the most marginalized people in our societies. This is not something we can afford to be on the wrong side of history on, it will cost us the support of precisely those people with the most revolutionary potential.