I always read Mars as portrayed in the Expanse as like, idk, a “rogue state” a la the DPRK or protectionist socialist states. They’ve got some war communism shit going on when they’re constantly on the brink of war, but
spoiler
we witness after peace is all but guaranteed between Mars and Earth a systematic looting of the former including the destruction of productive industries based around defense/war leading to some service-economy type shit. All of this is IIRC as I haven’t watched in a while.
I feel a little Kilmonger’d by the Belter revolutionaries. Maybe I shouldn’t, idk. It just felt to me like the football was always just out of reach.
I feel a little Kilmonger’d by the Belter revolutionaries
Can’t show a successful revolution in media. Not allowed. Unless it’s statedep approved “revolution”, i.e. overthrowing socialist government or some anarkiddo bullshit
I have heard from comrades that Andor lets us have the football for once, though I have not watched it.
I am watching DS9 and it is amazing to me that this show was released in the 90s with how obviously communist it is. I have not seen the famous “workers of the world” scene yet, but I did just watch Past Tense and just, goddamn. I did not expect the moral of a rather mainstream scifi show episode to be that people deserve to be fed, housed, and protected simply by virtue of being people, and we are all victims of capitalist circumstance, including the violent and angry. Violence can also be justified when in pursuit of revolutionary change.
Idk. Sisko is a Marxist-Leninist chad and I love him. It bums me out that popular scifi has only seemingly gotten worse since then.
I think the show portrays Mars as China. The US is the declining empire, and China is on the rise. They also portray Marco Inaros as a sociopathic leader with a horrible temper. The show has a clear “both sides bad” vibe. Don’t know if the books are the same.
Books are worse. Show portrays Belters more positive than books which are “all sides bad”.
Or, more exactly, books are heavily “power structures bad” anarchist vibes, let’s just have decentralised spacefaring civilisation (someone surely will make the spaceships as a hobby), though it’s subverted in book 2 by that botanist having long speech about how hard is to have civilisation in space without Earth even for purely technical and logistic reasons and that belter extremists are nuts. Then Inaros bombs Earth and later Belters become Spacing Guild like monopolists and thus also becoming bad power structure.
That botanist was btw right in universe, humanity barely survived the closing of the gates. Ending show us severely depopulated Earth centuries later (i assume Mars died out by that time).
I always read Mars as portrayed in the Expanse as like, idk, a “rogue state” a la the DPRK or protectionist socialist states. They’ve got some war communism shit going on when they’re constantly on the brink of war, but
spoiler
we witness after peace is all but guaranteed between Mars and Earth a systematic looting of the former including the destruction of productive industries based around defense/war leading to some service-economy type shit. All of this is IIRC as I haven’t watched in a while.
I feel a little Kilmonger’d by the Belter revolutionaries. Maybe I shouldn’t, idk. It just felt to me like the football was always just out of reach.
Can’t show a successful revolution in media. Not allowed. Unless it’s statedep approved “revolution”, i.e. overthrowing socialist government or some anarkiddo bullshit
I have heard from comrades that Andor lets us have the football for once, though I have not watched it.
I am watching DS9 and it is amazing to me that this show was released in the 90s with how obviously communist it is. I have not seen the famous “workers of the world” scene yet, but I did just watch Past Tense and just, goddamn. I did not expect the moral of a rather mainstream scifi show episode to be that people deserve to be fed, housed, and protected simply by virtue of being people, and we are all victims of capitalist circumstance, including the violent and angry. Violence can also be justified when in pursuit of revolutionary change.
Idk. Sisko is a Marxist-Leninist chad and I love him. It bums me out that popular scifi has only seemingly gotten worse since then.
I think the show portrays Mars as China. The US is the declining empire, and China is on the rise. They also portray Marco Inaros as a sociopathic leader with a horrible temper. The show has a clear “both sides bad” vibe. Don’t know if the books are the same.
Books are worse. Show portrays Belters more positive than books which are “all sides bad”.
Or, more exactly, books are heavily “power structures bad” anarchist vibes, let’s just have decentralised spacefaring civilisation (someone surely will make the spaceships as a hobby), though it’s subverted in book 2 by that botanist having long speech about how hard is to have civilisation in space without Earth even for purely technical and logistic reasons and that belter extremists are nuts. Then Inaros bombs Earth and later Belters become Spacing Guild like monopolists and thus also becoming bad power structure.
That botanist was btw right in universe, humanity barely survived the closing of the gates. Ending show us severely depopulated Earth centuries later (i assume Mars died out by that time).