I know that liberals are a pain to deal with, always parroting the same made up crap over and over again, but hear me out.
I think we should at least try to keep in mind that most of these people just don’t know better, they have been propagandized 24/7 since they were born.
I’m sure a good chunk of the people here were just the average liberal until learning what socialism really is about, and I doubt many if any at all of the people here decided to become a socialist after getting insulted by one.
Insulting liberals might feel cathartic for some people but we have to remember that, in a sense, they are also victims.
Obviously I’m not saying that we should be nice to fascists that knowingly make other people suffer, but I’m pretty sure most liberals actually want to be good people, and end up hurting others and themselves not because they are evil but because as I said earlier they are propagandized 24/7, and they actually think that what they are doing is good.
I myself am a socialist today partly because someone linked me to a debunk on r/GenZedong about the supposed Uighur genocide. At the time I was still a baby leftist, so I didn’t really trust r/GenZedong, but I decided to trust the person who gave me the link and I read it.
What do you comrades think?
I had this issue recently. I had been sharing info for a bit on a discord and most everyone was getting I to it. But I went a little too fast and brought up NK and someone was like “NK is legit bad though” and I kind of went a little aggressive with it which caused them to double down and say I wouldn’t change their mind, which caused me to do the same. Someone else intervened and we kind reached a mutual stay of arms and they said they would be more open minded but this really drove that point home.
We may have had this argument hashed out a dozen times and we KNOW our facts are right but for many this is the first time they have probably argued with someone that’s not only outside of their echo chamber but also knowledgeable enough to push the limits of what they know. Gotta just be the calmer voice. Being overly aggressive with it will cause them to put up walls. Don’t treat everyone as if they are all arguing in bad faith. It’s tiring, and a lot of the time you just want to say “fuck off lib” but don’t. That’s what they do when they say “ok tankie” or whatever.
i think autocorrect changed what you meant to say. “we know our fascist are right” ?
FACTS* yes sorry. “We know our facts* are right” Nice catch comrade. Thank you.
I think with the DPRK and the like its multiple exposures to people who support them, or agree that they’re just another country, or feel that it couldn’t possibly be as bad as they say that will give them the opportunity to learn.
If you’ve only heard one person ever say the DPRK was a good then you’ll have a hard time believing it, but by the twentieth time you’ll be more inclined to listen.