• @Shrike502
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    101 year ago

    while “let’s seize control” is some forbidden language that shall not be spoke if you don’t want to wake up the ghost Stalin and his big spoon

    I’d imagine getting stomped out by the full force of the capitalist repression machine is a bigger concern

    • @lil_tank
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      81 year ago

      Oh you’d be surprised, they legit have a martyrdom obsession. During the yellow vests, hundreds of people were maimed, but they still refused to build a unitary structure. They fought harder than they could to accomplish near to nothing

      • @Shrike502
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        71 year ago

        I am surprised, yeah. Why do they even bother with the protests?

        • @lil_tank
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          81 year ago

          Because of ideology. In the west, decentralisation is a huge dogma. I think France has a particular sweet spot for bourgeois revolutionary idealism because of the emphasis on the 1789 Revolution in its culture/politics.

          For the yellow vest in particular, this proto-anarchist approach to organising was THE point of convergence. It was a moral imperative to them and they stuck to it until no one was willing to mobilize.

          So my take on the west is that, given that ideology is an integral part of the material conditions, especially in consumerist mass media societies, the standard of living can go down by insane magnitude before the superstructure starts crumbling slowly (especially since bourgeois revolutionary idealism is currently the baseline of the left)

          • @Shrike502
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            51 year ago

            the standard of living can go down by insane magnitude before the superstructure starts crumbling slowly

            This I agree with. Plenty of people were gleefully proclaiming that “Europe will soon come back begging for gas” or that the NATO/EU will break over the economic crisis. Nah, it’ll take quite a lot for that.