“what the native american people think do not matter unless they have the might to back it up.”
I think u should reconsider your stance the idea that might makes right is bullshit and any leftist should know that, if the people of Taiwan really wanted autonomy they should have it problem is they don’t surveys always show that most see themselves as Chinese.
These aren’t natives. They are the overthrown Chinese government.
It would be similar to Canada, if Canada was still part of the UK, a socialist monarchy with Chinese military bases on them and they want the US back to the crown.
And then the UK would not consist of Wales, Scotland and England, but Lakota, Dakota and Nakota to begin with.
History matters.
A Chinese invasion for annexation would be totally different than what happened in any of the colonization process of the Americas.
Just like Russian x Ukraine. The history leading to the invasion matters too.
of course history matters but if a people see themselves as a people and want independence we should recognize that it isnt the case here but if it was the question would be more complicated than just “china good”
What people want can change and it’s never a good measure of anything in geopolitics.
At the end of the day it’s a matter of who has the biggest stick and whether they want it to use it or not.
The US and its vassals, have huge economic interest in Taiwan (electronic chips) and political too (weaken China), so China can’t do much, unless they want to risk a global crisis.
IIRC polls showed that less than a third wanted independence, only a tiny amount wanted reunification (i.e. one country one system), and most only wanted to maintain the status quo (ambigious with the PRC and ROC coexisting).
For some more context:
Ever since 1996 after the Chiang era when their pro-Japan puppet was elected, their education curriculum was changed to gradually influence the younger generations into believing that they were anything but Chinese. Many of them thanks to this believe themselves to be a higher class of human than mainlanders as they were under Japanese rule (same type of colonial brainwashing we still see in HK but not in Macau).
The current DPP leadership is a large influence in pushing the education “reforms” where some were pushing to rewrite the history of the ROC to begin in 1949 as opposed to 1912. To quote some of the more extreme comments from these people “why should we reunite with PRC, why not Japan or even India instead?”.
The most vocal types we see on the English speaking web are majority west-worshipping and also need to factor in the 1450 troll army that the DPP uses to flood the Chinese speaking space with this type of brainrot as well.
History matters.
A Chinese invasion for annexation would be totally different than what happened in any of the colonization process of the Americas.
Just like Russian x Ukraine. The history leading to the invasion matters too.
no, i agree in principle. ideally, tw and the mainland should peacefully settle their dispute, even if it means they’ll never reunify. but we both know that geopolitics does not work this way.
and might does make right, or rather, right requires might. so does wrong.
“what the native american people think do not matter unless they have the might to back it up.”
I think u should reconsider your stance the idea that might makes right is bullshit and any leftist should know that, if the people of Taiwan really wanted autonomy they should have it problem is they don’t surveys always show that most see themselves as Chinese.
These aren’t natives. They are the overthrown Chinese government.
It would be similar to Canada, if Canada was still part of the UK, a socialist monarchy with Chinese military bases on them and they want the US back to the crown.
And then the UK would not consist of Wales, Scotland and England, but Lakota, Dakota and Nakota to begin with.
History matters. A Chinese invasion for annexation would be totally different than what happened in any of the colonization process of the Americas. Just like Russian x Ukraine. The history leading to the invasion matters too.
of course history matters but if a people see themselves as a people and want independence we should recognize that it isnt the case here but if it was the question would be more complicated than just “china good”
What people want can change and it’s never a good measure of anything in geopolitics. At the end of the day it’s a matter of who has the biggest stick and whether they want it to use it or not. The US and its vassals, have huge economic interest in Taiwan (electronic chips) and political too (weaken China), so China can’t do much, unless they want to risk a global crisis.
IIRC polls showed that less than a third wanted independence, only a tiny amount wanted reunification (i.e. one country one system), and most only wanted to maintain the status quo (ambigious with the PRC and ROC coexisting).
For some more context:
Ever since 1996 after the Chiang era when their pro-Japan puppet was elected, their education curriculum was changed to gradually influence the younger generations into believing that they were anything but Chinese. Many of them thanks to this believe themselves to be a higher class of human than mainlanders as they were under Japanese rule (same type of colonial brainwashing we still see in HK but not in Macau).
The current DPP leadership is a large influence in pushing the education “reforms” where some were pushing to rewrite the history of the ROC to begin in 1949 as opposed to 1912. To quote some of the more extreme comments from these people “why should we reunite with PRC, why not Japan or even India instead?”.
The most vocal types we see on the English speaking web are majority west-worshipping and also need to factor in the 1450 troll army that the DPP uses to flood the Chinese speaking space with this type of brainrot as well.
Okay. Deal. Provided that the west becomes militatily ineffective in every single way that matters.
Good? They dont like that; then hopefully they understand the conditions of not existing.
There’s a difference between being autonomous and being a US military naval base.
Hopefully Taiwan isnt suicidally stupid. Yeah?
History matters. A Chinese invasion for annexation would be totally different than what happened in any of the colonization process of the Americas. Just like Russian x Ukraine. The history leading to the invasion matters too.
no, i agree in principle. ideally, tw and the mainland should peacefully settle their dispute, even if it means they’ll never reunify. but we both know that geopolitics does not work this way. and might does make right, or rather, right requires might. so does wrong.