Once relegated to the mere corners of some fringe political currents in Russia that nobody took seriously, we have had the misfortune of being subjected to Dugin in the English-speaking web thanks to the tireless efforts of the patsoc crowd, specifically the Infrared folks, who made it their mission to put communism and the revolution on hold to promote the word of Dugin.
With that in mind, and because I see some people uncritically accepting Dugin as this great figure to look up to (they never actually call him a Marxist) in the name of contrarianism, I figured I was gonna have to actually read Dugin. When the Internet was created and touted as a way to bring people closer together, I’m not sure this is what they had in mind.
Regardless, I have downloaded a PDF of Dugin’s foundational book, The Fourth Political Theory, and I can now look forward to a very good time for the foreseeable future.
Oh no what’s this
Oh shit shit shit
Oh fuck you at this point you’re just trolling
Go ahead and read him you want. Liberals in the west want to make him out to be some type of rasputin type figure and has this massive influence over Putin. It’s just not true. He’s a kook. Reminds me of trying to read Julius Evola…just remember thinking what are you on about exactly?
I don’t think Dugin is some sort of idiot, but I just think–despite his influence in right wing circles–he’s less influential then people realize. I’d also say he may be bright, his actual political theory is absolutely not marxist and should not be embraced or praised by anyone calling themself one.
I was listening to a recent war nerd podcast and they were talking about Dugin. Both hosts lived in Moscow in the 90’s and they talked about him. Basically, Dugin wasn’t taken very seriously at the time; his ideas didn’t connect with anyone.
He only became popular later, and he only became known in the west recently; usually as some sort of influence on Putin.
Dugin, Soral, Limonov (to an extent), maybe even Houellebecq…from the late 90’s to present day there are some semi popular right wing europeans who are almost anti-capitalist, but always talk about going back to some past (“appeal to tradition”), or refuse to make the leap to marxism, because something about their worldview won’t allow for it.
I have other thoughts on this but I’m tired and am having a hard time being coherent lmao
No no, this makes perfect sense.
Soral is often described as being “left on labour, right on values” – and evidently he also sees that himself, as seen in his foreword.
To me, socialism + fascism = fascism. Do they themselves know that this is what they are advocating for? I’m inconclusive on that. Part of me thinks they obviously know that they are just neo-fascists, ethnonationalists in different terms, and part of me thinks they’ve been doing this for so long they deluded themselves into thinking they actually created a fourth theory.
What would happen if they had their way? Well, we can infer at this stage the reactionary right is stronger than the progressive (socialist) left. This is because reaction is easier to move back to than the revolutionary ideology (see the end of feudalism). So I give the “left” part of their ideology about 6 months to live after they get into power.
Some of them know that they are advocating for fascism. I think some them (like Dugin) always talk about their beliefs in some psuedo spiritual way that leads them to believe they are somehow something other than fascists.