• Lenins2ndCat
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    202 years ago

    The early claim that MLs have done nothing the last 40 years seems pretty unfair, while partly correct in terms of actual revolutionary gains in the world, I don’t really see it as a useful critique. The left was devastated by the loss of the USSR which was the principle funder and supporter of a very large number of orgs, not only that but organising bases were simultaneous crippled by globalisation. In light of this is it really any surprise that the left went into recession while it rebuilt? I see no magic button available for preventing that dark period.

    • Muad'DibberMA
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      142 years ago

      Yeah lol, just look at China’s metrics under SWCC. Poverty elimination, life expectancy gains, world trade… are these “doing nothing”?

      • Lenins2ndCat
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        Right, but generally speaking at a global scale we should take into account just how much the USSR supported the global effort. Consider how many far right reactionary orgs and groups would suddenly collapse if the umbilical cord to US taxpayer funding were cut by the US collapsing tomorrow?

        The left had to rebuild. It was incredibly dependent on the USSR which ultimately played a large part in the recession. I have wondered numerous times whether China’s lack of significant help for movements internationally might also be motivated by the fact they’ve analysed what happened to the global movement. The reliance on the USSR was arguably a bad thing as it fucked us when it collapsed and they might want new movements to have no reliance on them which arguably makes them more resilient.

        Reconstruction takes time without those kinds of resources.

        • China has four unstable regions - Xinjiang, Tibet, Taiwan and Hong Kong. Sixty years ago Premier Zhou Enlai promised that China would not interfere in the internal affairs of other countries, so now China is only videoconferencing and sharing its experience with communist parties in other countries, rather than exporting its revolution directly to the outside world. If China exports its revolution it will be met with hostility from the most important countries in the world, which is not good for China, and if it exports its revolution, China will not be able to stop imperialist intervention in Xinjiang, Tibet, Taiwan and Hong Kong. (translated by DeepL)