From discussions online and articles from communist or “leftist” publications, I’ve seen an increase of anti-vax/mandate thinking, either being framed as

  • Pro-vaccine means you’re pro-big pharma
  • Pro-vaccine is inherently racist
  • Pro-mandate is bourgeois authority meant to dissuade organizing
  • Pro-COVID “hysteria” is a way to further oppress the working class

Other than a psyop meant to discredit the left, what about those that are genuine? I’ve seen online communists with seemingly good politics fall to this line of thinking, and even sources like Greyzone and MintPress have pushed out similar drivel. And of course I’ve only seen this from Western “leftists”, mostly from the US but not limited to them.

The pandemic has been a serious issue since the beginning, and now that rates of infection and hospitalizations are spiking well past the highs during the “peak” of the pandemic in the US, these voices have grown. The irresponsibility of these supposed comrades spouting out their hurtful rhetoric despite AES countries like China taking the necessary steps to continue to contain the pandemic speaks volumes to those privileged enough to be anti-health of the working class.

  • @Femboy_Apotheosis
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    32 years ago

    I don’t give a single, solitary fuck about your dogmatism, or idealism.

    https://twitter.com/profwolff/status/1454266810400972801?lang=en

    I also don’t particularly care what Wolff had to say here either, given it’s three months old and predates the return to a 9-11 every other day, and his conclusion seems spurious at best. If you want to cite something more relevant temporally, that would be fine.

    There is no organized, strong communist presence in the US. You wanna know why? Because we’re still in decay. There won’t be an actual leftist reckoning until the final stages of the sublimation of the national Bourgeois into the international, and near complete proletarianization of my people.

    So, no. I don’t particularly care for delusional counterfactuals about enticing the labor aristocracy.

    And also, I’m not engaging with you. I don’t care what you think. I care about innoculating anyone here against blatant misinformation that’s killing people.

    • @gun@lemmy.ml
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      I don’t give a single, solitary fuck about your dogmatism, or idealism.

      Then explain how I am those things. You don’t get to invoke those insults out of thin air.

      If you want to cite something more relevant temporally, that would be fine.

      Ok. You really think he changed his mind?
      https://twitter.com/profwolff/status/1484580551340089347

      I care about innoculating anyone here against blatant misinformation that’s killing people.

      Why? The entire US media is doing that for you. You think there are really people who are against mandates are just waiting to hear the same points from a communist to change their minds?
      And it’s not misinformation that’s killing people, you haven’t demonstrated that in any capacity despite the information I have provided in this thread.

      So, no. I don’t particularly care for delusional counterfactuals about enticing the labor aristocracy.

      You are theoretically bankrupt and a defeatist. You are shifting responsibility to the third world instead of taking responsibility in the first world. The labor aristocracy is not a class, it is a tendency of the working class. And even in the early 20th century, when this tendency was observed in the west, the communist movement was at its peak in the USA. Sure, it is possible that the ruling class does what Lenin said. They bribe labor leaders and striking workers with super profits. But they are not doing this as much, because unions are dead in the USA. So the labor aristocracy, as it was understood by Lenin, is not a prevailing tendency in American politics when the real working class is living at the bare minimum wages needed for survival.

      In a time when the entire country is anxious about the economy, are rioting en masse and rebelling through various channels, and are looking for a new system, I think the people are not at fault for the reason why we see no communist movement. The blame is solely on the failures of the American left.